Wallabies v Springboks Saturday 9th Sept NIB Stadium

[Ulrich]

Has Dempsey been picked on the bench to take the spot light off Hanigan at 6?

Yes.

 

[fatprop]

Dempsey hasn't played NRC this year.

But perhaps Timani played himself out of the squad with his NRC form?

There are two reason I can sort of think of

1/ Timani's efforts this year haven't been exactly stellar at being a massive unit who smashes people in attack and defense

2/ Dempsey's pace against a pretty quick bok backrow

That said, neither provide me with any great confidence

 

[dru]

With Dempsey on the bench I kind of get the squad inclusion of Korczyk. At least he has played some rugby this year.

 

[upthereds#!]

That's probably true but Pocock is not a true 8's arsehole. Shithouse runner, shithouse in the lineout and shithouse at cover defending (excellent in front line defence)
Without too much thought I would think Higgers would be a better 6 than Hanigan (by far) as well as a better overall 8 than McMahon (although he went pretty well in Bled 2 - and was shit in Bled 1) or Timani.

Pocock is a great 7 but a poor 8.
Hooper is an OK 7 (would be a poor 8) who probably should be playing 12.

shithouse at cover defending? see this ultimate cover defence! (haha bit old now)

 

[Derpus]

^^^
What were they thinking with that strip eh

 

[BarneySF]

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[biggsy]

Wallabies should scrap in with a win only if they score under the post for the iceman.

 

[Scrubber2050]

shithouse at cover defending? see this ultimate cover defence! (haha bit old now)

Mate - no question great tackle from Poey and looks fantastic on a highlight reel, even at the olden day "flicks"

 

[Braveheart81]

That's probably true but Pocock is not a true 8's arsehole. Shithouse runner, shithouse in the lineout and shithouse at cover defending (excellent in front line defence)

He's substantially better at most of those things than any other 8 we've played in recent years since Palu in his prime and the short but outstanding period by Samo at the end of his career.

You are holding Pocock to standards at number 8 that none of our other options meet hence why those selection decisions have been made.

I think Naisarani may end up being the guy with the well rounded number 8 skillset that changes it, but no one else has managed it.

 

[Brumby Runner]

People keep saying this but we haven't had a number 8 who has consistently strung good test matches together for a very long time.

Find me that player and I will say that we should select them every time.

Until we find that player I am open to playing a 7 out of position because they are a substantially better rugby player than the traditional 8 we have available to us.

If we were rating the number 8 performances this year, McMahon's game last week was better than any of the three tests started by a traditional 8 in June.

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We really need Holloway to step up in the NRC and have an opportunity with the Wallabies when he is fit, not just returning from long term injury. He did look very good last weekend.

On the matter of returning from injury, what is it with Cheika that he uses players before they have fully regained fitness and then discards them? Thinking Kerevi, Simmons, McMahon, Latu and a few others and now he has love for Dempsey who might be a great player but has had next to no game time at Super Rugby this year and none at NRC. Will he be discarded if he has an ordinary game too?

 

[upthereds#!]

Mate - no question great tackle from Poey and looks fantastic on a highlight reel, even at the olden day "flicks"

that was a great fukin game and an epic baabaas team

 

[Braveheart81]

We really need Holloway to step up in the NRC and have an opportunity with the Wallabies when he is fit, not just returning from long term injury. He did look very good last weekend.

I agree. He was very good for the Rams. Hopefully he can have a good Super Rugby year next year and remain injury free.

He combines the size, running ability, ball playing skill and lineout work that we need from a number 8. He probably needs to get a bit better in the tight stuff.

I think him and Naisarani are the two best shots at breaking through as a good test number 8 option.

 

[fatprop]

I agree. He was very good for the Rams. Hopefully he can have a good Super Rugby year next year and remain injury free.

He combines the size, running ability, ball playing skill and lineout work that we need from a number 8. He probably needs to get a bit better in the tight stuff.

I think him and Naisarani are the two best shots at breaking through as a good test number 8 option.

Hollaway needs to add the angry workrate stuff without the ball, at the moment he reminds me too much of David Lyons

 

[Derpus]

He's substantially better at most of those things than any other 8 we've played in recent years since Palu in his prime and the short but outstanding period by Samo at the end of his career.

You are holding Pocock to standards at number 8 that none of our other options meet hence why those selection decisions have been made.

I think Naisarani may end up being the guy with the well rounded number 8 skillset that changes it, but no one else has managed it.

If he hangs around. He's not Australian and hes not eligible yet and he's signed for a team that doesn't exist anymore. Might lose him.

 

[Braveheart81]

If he hangs around. He's not Australian and hes not eligible yet and he's signed for a team that doesn't exist anymore. Might lose him.

That is true. I tend to think he will though (although maybe I'm saying that hopefully more than anything).

 

[Warpath]

I make fun of Isi choosing Australia over Fiji a few times in a few rugby forums on facebook he is on, he usually likes my comments lol. i can honestly say he is committed to be a wallaby, only 2 other fijians have played for Australia in the forwards that i know of, one was nicknamed the Skewer and the other is a Legend (Samo), i'm sure he wants to follow their path.

 

[dru]

du Preez is Yster.

Whereas the metal in our backrow is simply to be proven. We'll be looking for a bit of starch from the boys on the weekend.

PS: I thought I had du Preez first name wrong lol, but I'd imagine he'd be cool if we decide to call him Yster du Preez. Tough men in Aus tend to get names like "cement" or "brick". Yster is better.

 

[RugbyReg]

I make fun of Isi choosing Australia over Fiji a few times in a few rugby forums on facebook he is on, he usually likes my comments lol. i can honestly say he is committed to be a wallaby, only 2 other fijians have played for Australia in the forwards that i know of, one was nicknamed the Skewer and the other is a Legend (Samo), i'm sure he wants to follow their path.

Fili Finau?

 

[Sabuulia]

Fili Finau?

I just had to login to comment on this one because I work with Fili

Also, on what planet is Hanigan 110kg? Kuridrani is listed as 192cm and 102kg, Arnold at 208cm and 120kg and Simmons at 200cm and 115kg.

 

[Hound]

I just had to login to comment on this one because I work with Fili

Also, on what planet is Hanigan 110kg? Kuridrani is listed as 192cm and 102kg, Arnold at 208cm and 120kg and Simmons at 200cm and 115kg.

On the Wallabies and NSW scales where everybody is 15 KG heavier. Not friendly for weight watchers.