Dismal Pillock
David Codey (61)
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Wallabies v Springboks, Sat 17th August 2024 Perth
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hammertimethere
Trevor Allan (34)
1. Bell (even if only good for 30 mins)
2. Faessler
3. AAAA
4. Hooper
5. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (play tighter)
6. Valetini
7. Tizzano
8. Wilson
9. Gordon
10. Lolesio
11. Koroibete
12. Paisami
13. Ikitau
14. Kellaway
15. Wright
16. Pollard
17. Kailea
18. Thor if available Nongorr if not
19. Canham (deserves debut)
20. Uru
21. McDermott
22. Lynagh
23. Toole (deserves debut)
We won't win but if we play better and get closer it'll still be a net positive. There is a group in our team who may be slowly declaring (or already have) that they can't give us what we need (possibly AAAA, maybe Wilson and Lolesio) but currently replacement options just aren't there.
Work with what we've got for now, then make offers to repatriate some potential problem solvers for us (Isaac Lucas and Harry Hockings to the Tahs is the big ones, maybe Banks to the Force and retaining Petaia, having some way to select Kerevi from Japan but he has to stay in as good a shape as Jesse Kriel seems to. Same for Skelton)
Make peace that we'll grind through this year and next, but if we keep a squad together will be potential semi finalists in 2027.
2. Faessler
3. AAAA
4. Hooper
5. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (play tighter)
6. Valetini
7. Tizzano
8. Wilson
9. Gordon
10. Lolesio
11. Koroibete
12. Paisami
13. Ikitau
14. Kellaway
15. Wright
16. Pollard
17. Kailea
18. Thor if available Nongorr if not
19. Canham (deserves debut)
20. Uru
21. McDermott
22. Lynagh
23. Toole (deserves debut)
We won't win but if we play better and get closer it'll still be a net positive. There is a group in our team who may be slowly declaring (or already have) that they can't give us what we need (possibly AAAA, maybe Wilson and Lolesio) but currently replacement options just aren't there.
Work with what we've got for now, then make offers to repatriate some potential problem solvers for us (Isaac Lucas and Harry Hockings to the Tahs is the big ones, maybe Banks to the Force and retaining Petaia, having some way to select Kerevi from Japan but he has to stay in as good a shape as Jesse Kriel seems to. Same for Skelton)
Make peace that we'll grind through this year and next, but if we keep a squad together will be potential semi finalists in 2027.
BDA
Jim Lenehan (48)
I think we'll see Blyth, Hooper and Uru all come into the 23.
The big problem for us is it's just not possible to get the scrum to where it needs to be in 7 days. This is boks team at the peak of their powers against an experienced wallaby pack missing guys like Tupou, BPA and Bell. Unfortunately if you're going to be giving penalties away at nearly every scrum it just makes things so easy for a team this experienced that loves to kick to the corner and attack. I actually think this game becomes a lot closer if you can gain some kind of parity at scrum time. Unfortunately that's not going to happen based on the available talent.
The big problem for us is it's just not possible to get the scrum to where it needs to be in 7 days. This is boks team at the peak of their powers against an experienced wallaby pack missing guys like Tupou, BPA and Bell. Unfortunately if you're going to be giving penalties away at nearly every scrum it just makes things so easy for a team this experienced that loves to kick to the corner and attack. I actually think this game becomes a lot closer if you can gain some kind of parity at scrum time. Unfortunately that's not going to happen based on the available talent.
Strewthcobber
Steve Williams (59)
Tomthumb
Dick Tooth (41)
Is that you Eddie?
Wilson
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Carter and Robertson were mentioned separately to Canham as training cover, so it's likely just about being there. There were a number of Reds guys called in to help with training in Brisbane too - Ryan Smith for example (and I assume Canham, given his call up), it just wasn't mentioned in the press.
Tomthumb
Dick Tooth (41)
Kolisi is their openisde, and How is Uru a good match?
Joe Blow
Peter Sullivan (51)
Kolisi is not a fetcher. They don’t really have one. We could use the added weight from having Uru or even Hooper. Hooper is more of a 5 though.
Maybe “is a good match” is not good terminology. He might just be a better fit for us at the start as opposed to a little fella.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Darcy has been playing with the Tuggeranong Vikings in the JID Cup in Canberra. Maybe he's not available in Perth, however I thought I saw that both he and Sam had been brought in as training opposition. If he's there, I think he could be a chance of a spot in the test team.
I think the team will look something like"
Bell (kailea if not fit), Faessler, Ala'alatoa
Swain (LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) if Darcy isn't available), Blyth
Hooper, Valetini, Reimer
McDermott, Lolesio
Pietsch, Stewart, Ikitau, Kellaway
Wright
Nasser, Slipper (Kailea if Bell starts), Nonggorr, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Wilson if Swain doesn't start or isn't on the bench), Uru, White, Lynagh, Toole
If a lock goes down then Hooper moves to the second row and Wilson or Uru come on.
EDIT : I had forgotten about Canham now being around the squad. Again, if he's there, then read Canham wherever I have referenced Swain.
Tomthumb
Dick Tooth (41)
He's pretty good over the ball, but I get what you're saying
Personally I don't think we should shoehorn a guy in because he's bigger. There needs to be a plan around it
Steve_Grey
Jimmy Flynn (14)
Tend to agree - just would swap Pietsch with Toole for outright gas - try and play a wider game.
If we play two big blokes at #6 and #7 then I'd play them as left and right (like France play) and share the breakdown work, but I prefer Reimer at #7 for a start.
SA don't have a pilfer specialist as they all have the ability to disrupt the breakdown - Kolisi is the closest they have to a traditional #7 (even though he wears #6 in SA tradition).
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I dunno if bigger bodies is the issue. I thought our packs were almost the same weight - the Boks just win their collisions while we don't.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Paisami hasn't been amazing but I don't think Stewart is able to address his short-comings.
Strewthcobber
Steve Williams (59)
Paisami was a target on the weekend in both attack and defense, and the Boks were able to knock him back over the ad-line repeatedly, but unless we have Kerevi from pre-ACL available then I don't think we have an upgrade on Paisami, and Stewart certainly won't solve the issue.
Wilson
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
He was also our most effective attacking weapon in the backline. The targetting had much less to do with Paisami and more to do with him receiving tip on passes in a flat footed backline - anyone at 12 was going to cop it and I'm pretty doubtful even peak Kerevi would've done much better with De Allende in his face as he received a ball standing still.