Wallabies 2023

[Slim 293]

It looks like Slipper and Gleeson are both going to ink deals through to the Lions tour…

Slipper, Gleeson set to re-sign with RA as White reveals toll of Brumbies exit

Nic White has confirmed his move to the Western Force as two key Wallabies forwards edge closer to extending their Rugby Australia deals.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Dctarget]

It looks like Slipper and Gleeson are both going to ink deals through to the Lions tour…

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rug...ls-toll-of-brumbies-exit-20230509-p5d6w1.html

Pretty bloody good. Is this because most players leave before the RWC? Banks, Simone, Sio, Salakai-Loto etc? We lost a lot of Wallaby IP then.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Any news on where Samu is moving onto?

Gleeson has the potential to be one of the best in the world by 2025 if fit and healthy. Very exciting. At first the Slipper news I though was silly but the way he's playing I never want the War Horse to leave.

 

[Slim 293]

Any news on where Samu is moving onto?

I'm not sure if it's been confirmed, but it was reported to be Bourdeaux...

 

[Dctarget]

I'm not sure if it's been confirmed, but it was reported to be Bourdeaux...

Les Brumbies annoncent le départ de Samu qui devrait rejoindre Bordeaux-Bègles

Les Brumbies ont annoncé ce mardi matin les départs de Nic White et Pete Samu à l'issue de la saison. Le troisième ligne australien devrait débarquer à Bordeaux-Bègles.

www.rugbyrama.fr

 

[upthereds#!]

I really doubt we take 3 10s and Hodge.

There's likely only 14 back spots. Take off 3 for 9s. 2 for Quade and Foley and you're left with 9 spots.

Kerevi, Ikitau, Foketi certs.
Kellaway, Korobiete, Wright, Petaia certs.

Two left, if you're including Hodge and Gordon you're left with no outside backs outside a 23, risky if one gets injured and we're putting Hodge in the 23. I think it'll be Hodge (to play as 10 v Portugal and backup anywhere else last) and either Mark N (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase) or Pietsch.

HB: Mcdermott, Gordon, White
FH: Quade, Foley, Gordon
C: Foketi, Kerevi, Ikitau, Hodge
OB: MarkyMark, Koroibete, Kellaway, Wright, Petaia

That could be the back contingent (Foketi v Paisami). You could keep both, or include a Paisami, Perese or Jorgenson if Hodge acts as the 3rd 10.

 

[upthereds#!]

I reckon it's pretty wide open after Frost and Skelton especially considering two potential options in Philip and Rodda aren't playing.

I think Arnold will be there. Philip and Rodda will only have to play a bit to keep out Swain.

 

[Braveheart81]

I think Arnold will be there. Philip and Rodda will only have to play a bit to keep out Swain.

I think an issue for Philip and Rodda will be whether there's just too many players returning from long term injuries.

They'll be lower on the priority list than Bell, Tupou, Cooper, Kerevi and possibly Leota. At some point I reckon Eddie Jones will baulk at having so many players in his squad that have played very little rugby this year.

 

[qwerty51]

HB: Mcdermott, Gordon, White
FH: Quade, Foley, Gordon
C: Foketi, Kerevi, Ikitau, Hodge
OB: MarkyMark, Koroibete, Kellaway, Wright, Petaia

That could be the back contingent (Foketi v Paisami). You could keep both, or include a Paisami, Perese or Jorgenson if Hodge acts as the 3rd 10.

If it's 15 backs then yeah (although Lonergan over J Gordon) but Eddie might do 6:2s and want a 19 / 14 forward:back split.

 

[qwerty51]

I think an issue for Philip and Rodda will be whether there's just too many players returning from long term injuries.

They'll be lower on the priority list than Bell, Tupou, Cooper, Kerevi and possibly Leota. At some point I reckon Eddie Jones will baulk at having so many players in his squad that have played very little rugby this year.

It definitely isn't ideal but I wonder if he'll also see an optismistic side of it all that our players bodies (in terms of collisions, soft tissue stuff) should be pretty fresh come late October and can flog them physically week in week out compared to other nations who'll manage a lot of their players approaching their 20+ games for the year.

 

[Derpus]

I'm not sure if it's been confirmed, but it was reported to be Bourdeaux...

I know he's been phoning it in this year but I still think this is a big loss for us. Dude is supremely talented and the perfect bench option for the Wallabies. Could easily have played at least through to the Lions tour.

 

[upthereds#!]

If it's 15 backs then yeah (although Lonergan over J Gordon) but Eddie might do 6:2s and want a 19 / 14 forward:back split.

It only MIGHT go to 14 backs if you carry the 6th prop (which some may) But usually that means going 4 locks and 5 backrowers, with one of them being a lock/6 hybrid - like a mostert, dutoit, kremer, holloway - it doesn't usually shorten the back squad. You'd never carry a 5th lock or 7th backrower.

hk: x 3
pr: x 5
lk: x4
br: x6
hb: x3
fh: x3
c: x4
ob: x 5

 

[qwerty51]

It only MIGHT go to 14 backs if you carry the 6th prop (which some may) But usually that means going 4 locks and 5 backrowers, with one of them being a lock/6 hybrid - like a mostert, dutoit, kremer, holloway - it doesn't usually shorten the back squad. You'd never carry a 5th lock or 7th backrower.

hk: x 3
pr: x 5
lk: x4
br: x6
hb: x3
fh: x3
c: x4
ob: x 5

It’ll be 6 props - one injury and the position with only 2 is fucked

 

[upthereds#!]

It’ll be 6 props - one injury and the position with only 2 is fucked

Part of why they went to 33 I imagine. Though you can replace a permanently injured player. Most teams took 5 when it was 31.

 

[griffins]

Any news on where Samu is moving onto?

Gleeson has the potential to be one of the best in the world by 2025 if fit and healthy. Very exciting. At first the Slipper news I though was silly but the way he's playing I never want the War Horse to leave.

Best in the world in what position?

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Best in the world in what position?

Rugby. All of it

 

[wamberal]

Rugby. All of it

You must be a Marlins supporter.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

You must be a Marlins supporter.

Negative

 

[Lightblue]

It disgusts me, but this is how Donaldsons name remains relevant. He can play 10 & 15. If he can have a good finish to the year who knows... I don't want him in the squad I'm just pointing out he's the type of guy they want. Some people though Bryce Hegarty might be around there to

Eddie said he was taking 3 10s. But I think the 3rd has to be able to play somewhere else. Like a To'omua or JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor). I'm sure he would have liked Donaldson to do better and be able to cover 15. Most likely in this squad, Hodge.

However could still be Quade, Foley and Gordon - but seems like a wasted spot. But who do you back in vital international games as the 2nd string - the proven performer who you know can deliver, or the young gun. Is the WC the place to 'blood' someone? He would have to start 2 of the 3 RC games IMO to know.

I would suspect Eddie will give Carter Gordon a go in the first Test against South Africa off the bench with Foley to start. Donaldson hasn’t played as well as last year, however Coleman’s game plan hasn’t helped him. If Ryan Lonergan comes on with Gordon, he can goal kick?

 

[Members Section]

I would suspect Eddie will give Carter Gordon a go in the first Test against South Africa off the bench with Foley to start. Donaldson hasn’t played as well as last year, however Coleman’s game plan hasn’t helped him. If Ryan Lonergan comes on with Gordon, he can goal kick?

Not saying I disagree but wow a test debut against the boks at a sold out loftus wowee!