Derpus
George Gregan (70)
The Sevu Reece yellow was clearly a red in the final, IMO.
A few years ago the tackle in the air on DMac would also have been a straight red. They seem to have gone softer on those again.
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The Sevu Reece yellow was clearly a red in the final, IMO.
A few years ago the tackle in the air on DMac would also have been a straight red. They seem to have gone softer on those again.
Set piece magic
John Solomon (38)
Yep, Lions player was red carded in 2017 final against the Cru for that tackle, albeit slightly worse than the DMac one
I think this is the compromise for not getting an advantage for being held up in goal.
On the weight of things this is an overall advantage to the defending team.
Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
Rather have the attacking team rewarded for running it over the goal line than the defending team punished for fielding kicks in-goal.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
As recently as last year it would've been a Red but WR (World Rugby) changed the decision-making framework effective March of this year so that how the player lands is key: head- or shoulder-first is Red, anything else is Yellow & he landed on his side so Yellow.
I thought so & said so, too, but the revised framework gives the refs a lot more discretion & what probably saved Reece was the fact he was stationary & there was no real force in the hit.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
I thought Reece hit him clearly on the chest and slipped up, so thought yellow was correct (and even tough), you could see it clearly from head on shot. Red card is meant to be direct to head I thought.
I'm the opposite. I already think the laws make it very hard to defend a team from close range and giving a small carrot to the defending team is good here.
Set piece magic
John Solomon (38)
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
I don’t mind that, watching a team put a contestable kick into the in goal rather than phase after phase of forward play is a better spectacle.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
That's primarily because the five NZ teams get to play all the Australian teams and none of the NZ teams.
Quite possible that the Reds or Brumbies could be the second best team in the competition and miss the final because of the way the draw works. That said, it's silly that they have longer odds than the bottom 2 NZ teams.
Set piece magic
John Solomon (38)
Still, seeing that hurts a bit. I'd love nothing more than for the Crusaders to lose to the Brumbies & Reds in the next fortnight and stick it to those writing us off
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Nonsense, he smacked him in the face.
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
To be fair its just varying degrees of extremely unlikely. The Blues second most likely to win? having a laugh.
Crusaders should walk it.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
This is where I worry after such positivity in Australian rugby we don’t do so well in TT and watch that positivity quickly disappear. Nz rugby has depth we can’t match. And the answer should not be to shrink our teams as we need the footprint for relevance in our crowded sports market. Anyhow we will see how we go but to me I would not be surprised if we hear more calls for having our own domestic competition retained.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Point of initial contact is no longer listed as mitigation, either, I believe.
https://resources.world.rugby/world...f-18e02e7f7e24/Head_Contact_Process_EN_v1.pdf
Previous versions specifically mention your "slipped up" scenario but this latest one doesn't. Perhaps an actual referee could enlighten the rest of us?
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Ok, well I thought it had to be direct, but going by that the ref was bang on, and I understand why he talked about low speed of players, as probably not a high degree of danger. I wondered why he said the player had almost stopped and was flat footed.
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