Springboks v Wallabies - Sunday 2 October 1am AEST - Loftus Versfeld

[todd4]

Maybe we need another heavy loss , just for AC to sort of realize he is on the road to nowhere.

 

[Dalai Ninja]

If we are importing mick Byrnes international credentials then we are about 20-0 in front! Well, maybe there's a loss or two in there but we are well in front

That why we got him.

But I was thinking more about the discussion about whether Reece Hodge knows the ball flies further at altitude. I think we can be certain Byrnes will tell him, if Larkham forgets.

 

[fatprop]

Mumm? Runs Harder then timani ?

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No, but is a better all round 6 or 8 than Timani whose only success in super rugby has been as a short lock who trucks it up and tackles.

The concept of timani having to make actual rugby decisions at 8 (or 6) in a test match, yeah nah, I don't see it

The decision was between Fardy and Mumm.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Mumm over Fardy again.
Did Michael Cheika catch Scott Fardy flirting with his wife? Because that is the only reason I can think of for cheika prefering Dean Mumm. It cannot be the lineout because Rob Simmons isn't getting picked for anything other than lineout management.
Surely Fardy offers more at the breakdown as well, which could be timely with Dave Pocock out

Posted by Pedrolicious in the blog preview but too good not to share:

 

[dru]

If the Wallabies don't win this test at Loftus, they wont win there ever. Its the weakest Springbok side I have ever seen on paper.

Maybe we need another heavy loss , just for AC to sort of realize he is on the road to nowhere.

I'm not so sure PaarlBok. Not the strongest hooker, and. Mtawiira is not at his peak. WB ahead in the scrum.

I'm sorry for the Lions halves, but with a very obvious shift to territory/ kicking its a pretty determined statement with Steyne and Lambie starting. Steyne may be aging, but a steadier hand at the tiller would be hard to find. It'll be interesting to watch Paige. Our halves are better at what they do. Yours are better at the Springbok thing.

Strategy will tell.

The line out is clearly better for Boks though Aus are improving.

There is no way I'm calling a big win either way.

 

[Scrubber2050]

Another positive is that Mike Byrne is 2-0 at Loftus Versfeld as kicking coach.

If we don't kick well at altitude I'm sure Mick will win the arse kicking competition

 

[Scrubber2050]

Amusing really that the All Blacks who are playing excellent rugby make 4 changes this week and we, who are playing at a mediocre level make 1 forced change, being McMahon for the injured Poey.

Interesting take on different coaches attitudes to long term success

 

[Braveheart81]

Amusing really that the All Blacks who are playing excellent rugby make 4 changes this week and we, who are playing at a mediocre level make 1 forced change, being McMahon for the injured Poey.

Interesting take on different coaches attitudes to long term success

They have rested key players.

You have in no way suggested that the Wallabies do that. Your suggestions have been around making positional changes and/or picking the players you prefer.

 

[Hawko]

Amusing really that the All Blacks who are playing excellent rugby make 4 changes this week and we, who are playing at a mediocre level make 1 forced change, being McMahon for the injured Poey.

Interesting take on different coaches attitudes to long term success

NZ are very careful to avoid burnout and regularly rotate players to ensure their workloads are managed. As some on this site will tell you, this is a really stupid thing to do and obviously one of the reasons their recent record is so bad.

 

[Dave Beat]

http://tenplay.com.au/sport/rugby

Cheers - what about of you are stuck outside of Aus

 

[fatprop]

Amusing really that the All Blacks who are playing excellent rugby make 4 changes this week and we, who are playing at a mediocre level make 1 forced change, being McMahon for the injured Poey.

Interesting take on different coaches attitudes to long term success

Not really, one has seemingly infinite depth of outstanding talent and the other is the Wallabies

 

[Braveheart81]

NZ are very careful to avoid burnout and regularly rotate players to ensure their workloads are managed. As some on this site will tell you, this is a really stupid thing to do and obviously one of the reasons their recent record is so bad.

It's a great luxury to have when you have such depth and have been winning constantly.

After only two wins this year people would be calling for Cheika's head if he decided to rest Hooper, Genia, Coleman and Kerevi for example.

 

[Scrubber2050]

It's a great luxury to have when you have such depth and have been winning constantly.

After only two wins this year people would be calling for Cheika's head if he decided to rest Hooper, Genia, Coleman and Kerevi for example.

It's not the 2 wins this year but the 5 losses that concern me, but I do take your point on depth.
Good example is the way Chek has been "resting" or "rotating" the locks

 

[Lindommer]

I'd suggest "finding my best locks/second row combination" would be closer to what Chek's been doing this year.

 

[Joe Blow]

I reckon it is Douglas/Coleman as long as they have a good lineout target at 6.
And maybe one at 8

 

[Lindommer]

A careful search back through my posts would confirm that, JB. I've been calling for Coleman to get a gold callup for a coupla years now.

 

[Scrubber2050]

A careful search back through my posts would confirm that, JB. I've been calling for Coleman to get a gold callup for a coupla years now.

True Lindo.

Its a bit like cream, sometimes it takes a while to rise to the surface (and generally it is worth the wait, as with Coleman)

 

[Twoilms]

Coleman is alright but he's not exactly at Itoje levels. The difference between him and Arnold is slim.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Coleman and Arnold are really dissimilar in the way they play. Coleman is more aggressive and will challenge the line with ball in hand. Arnold is perhaps more skillful as a distributor and is more creative in attack. Both are good to excellent defenders, and both offer very good lineout skills. I just think they are not directly competing with each other for a position, but are each in competition with others. In time, Arnold/Coleman just might be the best locking combination we have.

 

[wamberal]

Lukhan Tui could be in the mix, I know it is very early days, but he is a pretty good ball carrier.