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Army_Gav
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Twitter is rife with rumours that he's out. Shame a) I always believe in beating the best side to prove your worth b) The "Same old Richie, always cheating" chant won't get used now
Say It Ain't So!!! McCaw may be GONE...
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Jay
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That's cause Matt Todd was sighted at the AB's hotel. Nothing in it, apparently.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Matt-Todd-sp...ment/tabid/1534/articleID/229238/Default.aspx
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Trevor Allan (34)
There seems to be a suggestion that he's been called in for training purposes.
Without having seen the regulations pertaining to the RWC, I question whether it would be legal for him to do this; it would provide the ABs with resources outside their squad which other nations do not have and further would thoroughly invalidate much of the purpose of the 48 hour ban on replacement player involvement w/ the squad were he to take over the role.
Without having seen the regulations pertaining to the RWC, I question whether it would be legal for him to do this; it would provide the ABs with resources outside their squad which other nations do not have and further would thoroughly invalidate much of the purpose of the 48 hour ban on replacement player involvement w/ the squad were he to take over the role.
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pete88
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Quick, get JO'N on the blower to the IRB! Cause a stink! Mind games time 
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Jay
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Darren Shand says it's ok, so there...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5775053/ABs-down-play-Todds-appearance-at-training
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5775053/ABs-down-play-Todds-appearance-at-training
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Army_Gav
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Maybe he isn't injured, maybe it's because he can't handle the Cock
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Trevor Allan (34)
I'd be more confident hearing it from a source not associated with the All Blacks tbh.
Of course, this gives us a clear idea what to do in forthcoming world cups; don't bother with having to select a squad of 30. Just pick your 30 'activated players' and bring them over with another 15-20 'opposed training' players.
I'm pretty sure this is just an advantage the home team can utilise.
The teams are only allowed to have 30 accredited players. Presumably Todd is either staying at another hotel or at the same hotel but paid for by NZRU rather than by the RWC.
Not overly fair, but I tend to think it is just a tacit advantage for the home team. Having the IRB police every team meeting, training session etc. to enforce the rule would seem a bit overzealous and detract from the RWC more than it would improve it imho.
The teams are only allowed to have 30 accredited players. Presumably Todd is either staying at another hotel or at the same hotel but paid for by NZRU rather than by the RWC.
Not overly fair, but I tend to think it is just a tacit advantage for the home team. Having the IRB police every team meeting, training session etc. to enforce the rule would seem a bit overzealous and detract from the RWC more than it would improve it imho.
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John Hipwell (52)
I'm pretty sure that you can do this. There's nothing stopping the other nations from bringing in players as well. I think teams in past RWC have brought in club teams or whatever the equivalent is to NPC-type teams for 'opposed training'.
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Trevor Allan (34)
If its in the regs, then fair play.
I just question it with regard to all the provisions preventing a player joining the squad for 48 hours after being selected as a replacement. Consider if Cruden or Turner had been consistently providing 'opposed training' for the squad during the cup. How much time would it take for them to fit into the teams structures there versus another player who hasn't been involved at all for the rest of the cup?
I just question it with regard to all the provisions preventing a player joining the squad for 48 hours after being selected as a replacement. Consider if Cruden or Turner had been consistently providing 'opposed training' for the squad during the cup. How much time would it take for them to fit into the teams structures there versus another player who hasn't been involved at all for the rest of the cup?
The rule is only that they aren't allowed to play in a match for 48 hours after being added to the squad.
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pete88
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What's the point of the 48-hour thing anyway? Seems silly to gimp a squad beyond losing a top-30 selection.
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Trevor Allan (34)
Ah, my apologies then. I was under the impression they were not allowed to interact with the squad for that 48 hours (to compensate for travel time).
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Jay
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To make it even between teams playing in their backyard vs teams playing on the other side of the world. Wouldn't really be fair if NZ etc could bring a player in at the drop of a hat when France & Wales had to wait for a 30 hour trip before their man could slot in.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
The only point is it takes longer to get a player from the other side of the world than it does from the same city/country.
Just means that a player has time to fly from England without impacting the team more/less than a local guy.
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pete88
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I reckon ditching that rule and allowing a shadow squad that can't attend training or receive any type of accreditation would be better tbh but it makes sense I guess.
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Jay
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That just sounds like something the minnows would struggle to afford, thus disadvantaging them.
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Rocky Elsom (76)
Haven't we done something similar with the cricket team overseas? Recruiting an Aussie playing club or county cricket in the UK to carry the drinks as 12th man, and on occasions, the fellow has taken part in fielding as a substitute. IIRC a couple of years back the substitute took a couple of good catches at Lords or somewhere. As said here it is much easier to get a bloke in who is just down the road, as opposed to flying to the other side of the world.
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pete88
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Good point well made Jay, I take it back. Although you wonder if big teams won't start sending contracted players that don't get in the 30 on "holidays" to RWC destinations or hiring them to help with official ARU/NZRU etc tour parties.
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Trevor Allan (34)
Which is kind of my point. Its only fair when everyone is in the same situation. If the Minnows can only work with their 30 players + coaches, then the other teams should do likewise.
While Australia could relatively easily do the same thing, there will be nations where the travel distance or cost of doing so would be prohibitive and as such, the 'local' teams gain an advantage. Is it really particularly reasonable to provide that advantage?
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