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RWC 2027 Australia

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Rod McCall (65)

TLDR version - ACT Govt had offered roughly a $2.5M package per game which is what they thought was reasonable to not make a loss, but WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) wanted more.

A bit disingenuous of Barr to claim a "new stadium wouldn't have changed anything" and "the decision was all about money" when the money offered was tied to attendance at the stadium:
Barr also shut down the idea Canberra Stadium played a factor in the decision despite tournament organisers expressing concern about the ageing facility, declaring the final call was "all about money ... If the money was there, they were taking it."
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The offer amounted to about $2.5 million for each match, based on 75 per cent capacity attendance at each match including ticket sale and hospitality revenue.
 

liquor box

Peter Sullivan (51)
Nah, it’s plagiarism when your entire article is copied almost verbatim without any attribution.

It’s the kind of thing that gets you stung on Media Watch…
Any publicity is good publicity, Media Watch may actually get rugby some nationwide coverage.
 

Slim 293

George Smith (75)
A bit disingenuous of Barr to claim a "new stadium wouldn't have changed anything" and "the decision was all about money" when the money offered was tied to attendance at the stadium:

Brett Robinson certainly disagrees with him...

One notable omission was Canberra, which hosted games in the 2003 Rugby World Cup.

Robinson, the inaugural captain of the ACT Brumbies, concedes the lack of adequate stadia was the main rationale for heading elsewhere.

“It's disappointing that we haven't got the stadium, I've got a few chips on my shoulders as a lot of Brumbies do, we haven't quite got the stadium we’d love to be competitive (in bidding for matches),” he explained.

“We have a wonderful rugby community playing at home in Canberra, it’s a wonderful place to play the game. It’s just we haven't got the facilities really to compete for the scale of this tournament, which is a disappointment.

 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Say what you will about their decision to not offer more - but it's wild that a city that has one of the countries super rugby teams doesn't get a single game

You would think that the ACT Government would have needed to significantly outbid other regional venues to win games given their stadium is inferior to everywhere else hosting matches.

I can't imagine the fact that it is home to the Brumbies had any impact on World Rugby's decision.

In terms of test matches in general (where Rugby Australia is the decision maker), it's very difficult to allocate a scarce resource to Canberra when the stadium is crap and the last two tests there have been about 60% full.

I can't see Canberra getting another test match until they have a new stadium.
 

Tex

Greg Davis (50)
Adelaide is a great city for big events. I've got family there and will strongly consider a trip over for a headline evening game at Adelaide Oval.

Shame for the Canberrans though.

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liquor box

Peter Sullivan (51)
You would think that the ACT Government would have needed to significantly outbid other regional venues to win games given their stadium is inferior to everywhere else hosting matches.

I can't imagine the fact that it is home to the Brumbies had any impact on World Rugby's decision.

In terms of test matches in general (where Rugby Australia is the decision maker), it's very difficult to allocate a scarce resource to Canberra when the stadium is crap and the last two tests there have been about 60% full.

I can't see Canberra getting another test match until they have a new stadium.
I wonder how they really decide on a venue?

If a crappy venue sells out and a better venue with the same capacity only sells half the tickets then who is favoured?

Does world rugby make more from ticket sales or bids from states/cities?
 

Latts1992

Herbert Moran (7)
Presumably states and territories with smaller stadiums would have to pay a premium to host matches to offset potential lost revenue from ticket sales. If the ACT had a stadium that was larger by 10k seats, with a minimum of $100 a ticket that's an additional million dollars in revenue right there. On top of that, if the ACT had a modern, city-based stadium it immediately would have become more attractive for corporates from WR (World Rugby)'s perspective, and the tourist spend for the local government would increase due to better access to bars, restaurants, museums, and other venues in the city.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I wonder how they really decide on a venue?

If a crappy venue sells out and a better venue with the same capacity only sells half the tickets then who is favoured?

Does world rugby make more from ticket sales or bids from states/cities?

My guess is World Rugby considers each bid as a whole. Where will it be played, what's the likely attendance and how much will they make from the bid plus ticket sales?

I would assume it's roughly 50/50 in terms of revenue generation between the bid price and the ticket sales.

Canberra Stadium has nothing going for it. History suggests matches aren't well supported and it's also the worst stadium available.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Presumably states and territories with smaller stadiums would have to pay a premium to host matches to offset potential lost revenue from ticket sales. If the ACT had a stadium that was larger by 10k seats, with a minimum of $100 a ticket that's an additional million dollars in revenue right there. On top of that, if the ACT had a modern, city-based stadium it immediately would have become more attractive for corporates from WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby)'s perspective, and the tourist spend for the local government would increase due to better access to bars, restaurants, museums, and other venues in the city.

I think the size of stadium is fine. Townsville is the same size and AAMI Park and Newcastle aren't massively larger.

hbf Park (assuming it will be hosting games) is smaller.
 

Strewthcobber

David Codey (61)
Yeah that was weird. Governments don't have any role in that. I think what he meant was their estimated visitor spend was only slightly more than the fee they would pay.
Does seem a strange thing to say.
How ever the ACT government is estimating their benefit side of the equation, the bid works out at $125 per estimated ticket sale
 

HogansHeros

Dave Cowper (27)
Gosford didnt get a look in this time around. I remember 2003 world cup as an 8 year old going to watch Ireland vs Romania there, cause the old fella was too tight to buy Wallabies tickets.
 
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