Reds 2011

[Lee Grant]

Lee, what number does the tight head lock wear?

There is no rule on the matter and neither is there for flankers, incidentally.

Without looking at any videos I remember that Kane Douglas wore 5 last year for the Tahs but Brad Thorn always wore the 4 jersey for the All Blacks - and both are TH locks.

Folks should look at what side of the scrum the locks pack on, not the jersey number.

 

[Tank]

Sorry, I meant usually as I was trying to work out (without any video assistance) what John Eales was?

Obviously he wore 5 for his whole career but I would not have guessed him for the TH lock with Giffin or McCall etc.

I confess I am new to the TH lock theory and had always considered them both locks.

 

[Lee Grant]

Oh, I remember Eales playing on the TH side but I couldn't warrant that he always played there. I remember some teams used to have their most mobile lock on the open side.

I'm guessing, but my suspicion is that the importance of the tight head lock in the scrummage become more pronounced about the same time as the power hit became important.

The power hit evolved over time but when players turned professional and could afford to spend a lot of time in the gym, and were even required to do so, it's malign influence gradually became endemic and the need to assist the THP became vital.

Power hits are ferocious now compared to in Eales day and I can't recall that I thought about the matter before about 5 years ago. About then I noticed that the more physical specimens were locking on the right hand side.

As for it being a discussion point, it is a relatively new one, but I have noticed that a few expert commentators are mentioning it now - especially those who were forwards in their playing days. Ben Kay has mentioned it a few times this season.

 

[Waylon]

Oh, I remember Eales playing on the TH side but I couldn't warrant that he always played there. I remember some teams used to have their most mobile lock on the open side.

I'm guessing, but my suspicion is that the importance of the tight head lock in the scrummage become more pronounced about the same time as the power hit became important.

The power hit evolved over time but when players turned professional and could afford to spend a lot of time in the gym, and were even required to do so, it's malign influence gradually became endemic and the need to assist the THP became vital.

Power hits are ferocious now compared to in Eales day and I can't recall that I thought about the matter before about 5 years ago. About then I noticed that the more physical specimens were locking on the right hand side.

As for it being a discussion point, it is a relatively new one, but I have noticed that a few expert commentators are mentioning it now - especially those who were forwards in their playing days. Ben Kay has mentioned it a few times this season.

The Springboks of the mid to late 90's were pretty useful
The young Os Du rant would have probably disagreed that power hits are a new phenomena
Perhpas we should say, power hits are a new concept in Australian scrummaging?

 

[Aunt]

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[Lee Grant]

Waylon,

I didn't say they were a new phenomenon; they aren't. I made a post about it a few months ago.

From memory my research indicated that proto-power hits were evident in the mid to late 70s and became more evident about 10 years later. But it was the advent of professional rugby in 1995 (1996 in the SH) that made it a universal thing at the top levels because the players had time to prepare for them physically.

As for Os du Rant: he was a genius and would have been in any era, hits or no power hits.

 

[Waylon]

Waylon,

I didn't say they were a new phenomenon; they aren't. I made a post about it a few months ago..

I'm new. Sorry I missed that one. Perhaps we can talk scrums sometime?

 

[cyclopath]

I'm new. Sorry I missed that one. Perhaps we can talk scrums sometime?

I think you'll be happy - scrums get discussed often - we are heavily piggy-biased, or maybe they just say more. Hopefully, this year, in more optimistic tones! Stick around.

 

[RugbyFuture]

Because we need to keep the reds fans amused (they have short attention spans) heres a poster for all of you.

 

[OLDDOG]

Because we need to keep the reds fans amused (they have short attention spans) heres a poster for all of you.

RF, wot has me amused, is the opinion that the filthy tahs are gonna do well this year! dream on! your best bet? 6th in the international ladder, if you're lucky! full marks for your optimism down there in mexico, do they get anthony robbins to give tahs fans prep talks on expectations?

 

[RugbyReg]

So Luke Morohan misses out again. The Force will come hunting I suspect.

I have no problems with him going for opportunities. Plenty of outside back depth at the Reds.

 

[Tangawizi]

True Reg - it will be a bit of a different atmosphere for him playing in front of 2 men & a dog at Ballymore on Sat Night in the Academy team compared to Suncorp on Sunday. Think he's only one injury away from getting back in though.

The other big question is whether or not Tomiki will actually get a game during his entire 2 year contract?

 

[Scotty]

90 x $8500 is a nice addition to QRU bank account. Wonder how accurate that is.

8500 is just the starting price. In reality the average is a lot more that than.

 

[spectator]

So Luke Morohan misses out again. The Force will come hunting I suspect.

I have no problems with him going for opportunities. Plenty of outside back depth at the Reds.

He'll get his opportunity, and sooner rather than later I expect. I'm sure he was in the selection mix, but that's the consequence of having good depth. The likes of Schatz and Gill are in the same boat.

 

[spectator]

So what is happening with the Saturday night game.... has a team been announced? I reckon Qld A v Fiji will be a ripper, and I certainly plan on being there. Pity it couldn't be the curtain raiser on Sunday.

 

[TOCC]

Yeah i was thinking about the QLD A game been a curtain raiser, has me thinking that maybe the Suncorp Staff are reluctant to play to much rugby on the pitch whilst its still in its recovery phase

The other big question is whether or not Tomiki will actually get a game during his entire 2 year contract?

he played against the highlanders in 2010... has been a bit of a dud buy so far

 

[RuggerFan]

True Reg - it will be a bit of a different atmosphere for him playing in front of 2 men & a dog at Ballymore on Sat Night in the Academy team compared to Suncorp on Sunday. Think he's only one injury away from getting back in though.

The other big question is whether or not Tomiki will actually get a game during his entire 2 year contract?

Is there a game on at Ballymore this weekend? There doesn't seem to be any anouncement or publicity about it by the Reds! If correct it could be one of Link's mistakes for this season - if he forgets about his fringe players such as Morohan, Tomiki, Samo etc and counts on his "dream 22" he in for a bit of a shock. Didn't the 2nds play curtain raisers to the first home games last year?

 

[Ash]

So does a Reds season ticket include travel on public transport to and from the game? Or more specifically, on a train? I have a Reds Ruby seasony tickety thing on a lanyard, just wondering if I have to fork out for PT to and from the game as well...any reply will save me some embarrassment with some ticketing officers!

 

[Tangawizi]

That's a yes for free public transport and also a yes for a game on at Ballymore. A few games at Ballymore over the next week actually.

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http://www.redsrugby.com.au/Reds/FutureReds/2011QASReds2ndXVGames.aspx

2011 QAS Reds 2nd XV Schedule – All games kickoff at 6:30pm local time

Game 1 – Saturday, February 19 at Ballymore: QAS Reds 2nd XV v Fiji
Game 2 – Wednesday, February 23 at Ballymore: QAS Reds 2nd XV v Samoa
Game 3 – Monday, February 28 at Ballymore: QAS Reds 2nd XV v Tonga
Game 4 – Saturday, March 5 in ACT: QAS Reds 2nd XV v Brumby Runners

 

[Ash]

Thanks for the quick reply!

As someone living in Sydney who will be flying up for Reds games, please forgive my ignorance...

So we just show our membership card for the free public transport to and from the game? (BTW, for the games that I am going to directly from the airport, I suspect I will still have to pay rip off airport train prices!)

BTW, who here is going to the game on Sunday?