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Reds 2011

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Often Wrong

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Given the long lead times on producing the modern sublimated jerseys it may be that the deal was signed too late to be incorporated at production, leaving iron-on decals the only option for the sponsorship announcement. However no doubt the powers will be paying attention to the G&GR feedback and working on different decals as we speak (write)....
 
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TOCC

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Bit of a nothing article, but it does highlight that Link plans to hide QC (Quade Cooper) in defence again, not great news for the Wallabies and the RWC though

THEY'RE intent on ending a decade-long absence from the finals but Queensland won't do it by curbing their reputation as the entertainers of Super rugby.

Reds coach Ewen McKenzie promised the flair and adventure that sparked Queensland's revival will again be a cornerstone of their game in the inaugural Super Rugby season beginning next month.

The Reds were the early adopters of a high-tempo style later to dominate southern hemisphere rugby in 2010 and used it to claim many big scalps, including eventual champions the Bulls.

Queensland fell short of the finals in fifth by just two points and McKenzie said a post-season identified areas to improve to take the next step. The evolution, however, won't involve a swing towards conservatism, he added.

"We developed a reputation and it was interesting, it wasn't so much around winning, it was about our style. We have to concentrate on matching up those two elements," McKenzie said.

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"We're cognisant how people enjoyed that approach, we're mindful of that but we also want to win more games. It's a balancing act but we don't want to be any less interesting and exciting for people to watch. We don't want to lose that.

"People got excited about rugby again and it's good territory to hold."

McKenzie said the review had thrown up 170 recommendations - ranging from minor to major issues - and that the Reds would continue to be innovative. One strategy from 2010 that McKenzie is set to persist with, however, is keeping five-eighth Quade Cooper out of heavy defensive duties as much as possible.

Cooper's defence in both Super 14 and Test rugby was sub-standard and his effectiveness stats made for ugly reading. Rival sides targeted Cooper mercilessly and to the point where it imperilled his Test spot late last year.

McKenzie hid Cooper where possible in 2010, bringing aggressive defender Brandon Va'aulu into the narrow channels and slipping his No. 10 out wide.

He'll do the same again this year but not because McKenzie has a huge concern about Cooper individually.

"Quade will be defending at 10 often and he knows he has to make his tackles. Everyone does," McKenzie said. "But we will have other combinations in there as well at other times. There's adaptation in the game all the time. It's a positive, not a negative, to use a guy in tight who likes to smash people.

"You use your resources in the best places possible, just like you do with attacking players, good steppers, whatever. It's is a bit of a dated idea that a guy has to always defend in one particular area. You don't need to defend in the same order you attack."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...air-here-to-stay/story-e6frey4i-1225995032892
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
so he is basically admitting the style of footy the reds play wont win them matches but reading between the lines management likes it as it puts bums on seats.
interesting year ahead indeed.

i think with suncorp being cleaned up, maybe we could make a few bunkers for cooper to hide in so he doesnt stuff up out wide either.
 
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TOCC

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You could potentially read that far into it, however it would be a little silly for any coach in pre-season to say that he isnt going to alter the playing style, regardless of whether he is or not....
 
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I have only just noticed the squad to take on the crusaders on Saturday in Cairns. I was surprised to see Beau Robinson there as I didn't realise he made the academy squad. Its good to see that there is someone able to back up that spot who has a bit of Super rugby experience as for a change the depth of the squad has increased unlike previous years where the bleeding of talent, north, south and west. For a change having players in the squad and extended squad who have experience will be crucial as injuries unfold throughout the season.

Who actually cements the 7 spot this year will be vital as at the moment its still the weakest spot in terms of tested players in the side.
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
So Qude will be required to defend but Link also treasures the option of using him out back in counter attack and may also be aiming to preserve his playmakers energy levels. As long as Quade does do some defending at 10 to improve that aspect of his game, I see no problem with that.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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I really wonder about the Reds fullback position. Hynes is a cert, if fit. But there has to be question marks about his fitness doesn't there? He's struggled to get on the park since the Super 14 season, and he's still struggling it seems.

I wonder who the other options are?

Luke Morahan I guess.

Rocket Rod Davies at a pinch.

I reckon Michael Harris could cover there, although not sure we'd have the same counter attack game.

Aiden Toua of course, but as an Academy player he can't be first cab off the rank.
 

Brumbies Guy

John Solomon (38)
I really wonder about the Reds fullback position. Hynes is a cert, if fit. But there has to be question marks about his fitness doesn't there? He's struggled to get on the park since the Super 14 season, and he's still struggling it seems.

I wonder who the other options are?

Luke Morahan I guess.

Rocket Rod Davies at a pinch.

I reckon Michael Harris could cover there, although not sure we'd have the same counter attack game.

Aiden Toua of course, but as an Academy player he can't be first cab off the rank.

Ben Lucas was the last to play as the Reds fullback too wasn't he?
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Reg, my money would be on Ben Lucas or Morohan. I think there maybe somthing to Lucas starting there in the final game last year. He will still be the backup 9 but he won't ride the pine as much as last year.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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yep, absolutely. Forgot about Benny. He was very good there last year and provides a more Hynes style of play too.

Wouldn't be unhappy with that. 'scored' one of the non-tries of the year last year, only bettered by Kurtley's efforts on the UK tour (was it v Wales??).
 
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If we trawl back through the depths of the Reds threads, i am a very big fan of Benny Lucas at 15, what impresses me the most is his ability to act as a second playmaker and interject himself at whim... What concerned me in 2010 were the Hurricanes and Brumbies matches where the opposition effectively targetted QC (Quade Cooper) and shut down the Reds backline. QLD had no plan b behind Quade as a playmaker..
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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Reds team to play Crusaders (from fullback): Rod Davies, Aidan Toua, Digby Ioane, Will Chambers, Luke Morahan, Quade Cooper, Will Genia (vc), Scott Higginbotham, Liam Gill, Radike Samo, Van Humphries, James Horwill (c), James Slipper, Saia Fainga'a, Ben Daley.

Reserves: Kimami Sitauti, Ben Tapuai, Mike Harris, Ian Prior, Leroy Houston, Lei Tomiki, Beau Robinson, Ben Coridas, David McDuling, Guy Shepherdson, James Hanson, Albert Anae, Greg Holmes

Rocket at fullback and Toua on the wing is interesting. As is Diggers at 13 with Chambers at 12. Higgers at 8, DK at 6. Wow. Lots to watch here!
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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NB:

The only change to the initial 28-man squad sees Australian U20s and QAS Reds Academy scrumhalf Ian Prior come in for Ben Lucas, who will remain in Brisbane with a minor injury complaint.
 

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Geoff Shaw (53)
The trail positional selections seem to me to be a case of "we know you can play X position, but I wonder if you can play Y".

Interesting as you'd presume people should get a feel for their regular positions again but it's also the only time of the year you can really experiment.

To me the most ridiculous selection is Samo at 6, I mean the man has his strengths and is a true veteran of the game but unless he has really gotten himself into good condition I doubt he has the work rate to be a flanker.
 

rugbysmartarse

Alan Cameron (40)
it will be interesting to see how the reds play Horwill, Van and Simmons this season. 3 good locks, do you show horn one in at 6, or rotate them due to longer season?
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Samo at 6, or even 8, excites me. As long as the rest of the backrow is balances. Not sure it works with Higgers or Leroy in the same backrow. Firstly you need your 7, whomever that is goning to be. Then the other one (whether 6 or 8) needs to be a head down bum up worker. Schatz. Quirk. Horwill. Who knows? Great options though.
 
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To me the most ridiculous selection is Samo at 6, I mean the man has his strengths and is a true veteran of the game but unless he has really gotten himself into good condition I doubt he has the work rate to be a flanker.

From what I am hearing Samo has been going gangbusters - maybe you should go down and watch training before you pension him off
 

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Mark Ella (57)
Whats better than a physical pack? A physical and mobile pack. For a big unit it is amazing how mobile the Reds pack is also.

Does anybody know how ticket sales are going for the Cairns game? This probably belongs in the Brumbies thread but tickets for the Darwin game are moving quickly. Grand stand is a sell out. All good for rugby.
 
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