Reds 2011

[en_force_er]

Yeah we are seeing some game changing line-outs at the lower level recently, but some of the stuff hasn't crept up to the top level yet.

The big one is when you contest opposition ball you do it with the jumper at the front and one lifter behind him, brings you an extra meter closer to the ball and seeing as the height of the lift isn't as big of a deal at the front of the lineout it works a treat.

 

[TOCC]

Yeah we are seeing some game changing line-outs at the lower level recently, but some of the stuff hasn't crept up to the top level yet.

The big one is when you contest opposition ball you do it with the jumper at the front and one lifter behind him, brings you an extra meter closer to the ball and seeing as the height of the lift isn't as big of a deal at the front of the lineout it works a treat.

Could work, but by having one less lifter it also means the player goes up marginally slower

 

[en_force_er]

Could work, but by having one less lifter it also means the player goes up marginally slower

But as I said, at the front it isn't AS BIG of an issue taking into account variables like the natural arc of the ball at the front of the lineout the fact you'd be at least half a meter closer it COULD even things out.

Obviously even if it didn't even things out you are merely putting the pressure on against the feed so it's no big issue.

 

[liquor box]

My favourite line out last year was against the Bulls (favourite game too) when we did not contest and stood back while they formed a maul, when we contacted them it was deemed to be obstruction and we got the penalty. It was a great move.

I would like to see more quick throws to number 1, it is not used enough and creates guessing by the opponent

 

[TOCC]

But as I said, at the front it isn't AS BIG of an issue taking into account variables like the natural arc of the ball at the front of the lineout the fact you'd be at least half a meter closer it COULD even things out.

Obviously even if it didn't even things out you are merely putting the pressure on against the feed so it's no big issue.

Against a good hooker and jumper(ie any international team) it's still going to be issue...
These sort of tactics have been tried and tested before it's like having the hooker as the number 1 lifter..

 

[tranquility]

How old is Matt Taylor and how long was he the TSS head coach for?

 

[Rothschild]

How old is Matt Taylor and how long was he the TSS head coach for?

Not sure on the age but probably early-mid 40's.
Coached at TSS for 2 years - 2007 and 2008, maybe 2006 but I don't think so.

 

[en_force_er]

Against a good hooker and jumper(ie any international team) it's still going to be issue...
These sort of tactics have been tried and tested before it's like having the hooker as the number 1 lifter..

They'd still do that but the hooker has to stand 2m away now.

 

[Bowside]

My favourite line out last year was against the Bulls (favourite game too) when we did not contest and stood back while they formed a maul, when we contacted them it was deemed to be obstruction and we got the penalty. It was a great move.

I would like to see more quick throws to number 1, it is not used enough and creates guessing by the opponent

I was just watching a Top 14 game and this tactic is all the rage in france.

One team was doing it on every opposition lineout.

 

[en_force_er]

I was just watching a Top 14 game and this tactic is all the rage in france.

One team was doing it on every opposition lineout.

It's not that hard to counter though. The bloke who takes the line-out just needs to hold into the ball and then bam, freebie 2-3 meters.

I guess it stuffs up the modern mauling technique of having the lifters literally step infront of the jumper though.

 

[fatprop]

It's not that hard to counter though. The bloke who takes the line-out just needs to hold into the ball and then bam, freebie 2-3 meters.

I guess it stuffs up the modern mauling technique of having the lifters literally step infront of the jumper though.

They will just learn to have the blockers grab a defender as the catcher lands

 

[en_force_er]

They will just learn to have the blockers grab a defender as the catcher lands

Yeah but wouldn't that be illegal and be considered impeding his chance to defend?

I know it's certainly illegal to pull a played into a ruck and would imagine it would be illegal at the maul.

 

[fatprop]

Maybe or it would be called binding

 

[Red Rooster]

Not sure on the age but probably early-mid 40's.
Coached at TSS for 2 years - 2007 and 2008, maybe 2006 but I don't think so.

I think you will find he is a fair bit younger - around 36

 

[tranquility]

I think you will find he is a fair bit younger - around 36

What is his experience other than with TSS? he must be rated very highly to go straight from school rugby to assistant at the Reds as a young coach.

 

[Rothschild]

What is his experience other than with TSS? he must be rated very highly to go straight from school rugby to assistant at the Reds as a young coach.

Matt played his junior rugby in Scotland, I believe he was in the national U20 team and was making ground towards the Scottish National team when injury called a halt.
Not sure from where he came before TSS but his impact was immediate, the players loved him for his positive communication and his ability to mentor them and bring out their best performances.
He is very astute in reading the game and a player.
He didn't go directly to assistant Reds - he took over the Qld U20/academy side and moved up from there to the bigger lads a year later.

 

[tranquility]

sounds like a man in a hurry, good addition.

 

[Rothschild]

Matt is one person that while moving quickly in his career he is never hurried. Very methodical and thorough.
I understand that he now plays a big part in tactics, particularly attack with the Reds.

 

[Red Rooster]

Matt is one person that while moving quickly in his career he is never hurried. Very methodical and thorough.
I understand that he now plays a big part in tactics, particularly attack with the Reds.

Jim Mckay is the attack coach, Matt Taylor is the defence coach - its on the website

 

[Scotty]

It's not that hard to counter though. The bloke who takes the line-out just needs to hold into the ball and then bam, freebie 2-3 meters.

I guess it stuffs up the modern mauling technique of having the lifters literally step infront of the jumper though.

Free 2-3 metres, but an easy tackle and guaranteed to stop it there (opposed to mauling it down the field).

This defensive technique is showing up the fact that the maul is a contradiction of the rules as far as any other part of the game is concerned.