Rebels 2020
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I think fatprop is referencing certain players being told they are not required to train with the Super Rugby team despite being on a full contract and instead just being told to train and play with their club side. In that instance they are pretty clearly being frozen out and hopefully frustrated into seeking a release.
I don't think anyone has any issue with players outside of the matchday 23 playing for their club side on a Saturday.
I don't think anyone has any issue with players outside of the matchday 23 playing for their club side on a Saturday.
I am not talking about the odd game, but the "Coopers", the "Hunts" and the "Slippers" in the last few years
It happens in Rugby, the NRL & Football
There is no loyalty from professional sports (or any other business) unless it suits them, none. If they want someone off their books, the pressure happens and they are gone
So why should any player provide any loyalty?
KevinO
Geoff Shaw (53)
i'll answer in Maddocks case for why he should
1) Melbourne signed him when no other Super side was interested in him
2) Melbourne showed faith in him when he spent 90% of his first year here in team rehab
3) While playing for Melbourne he developed his game to reach international level
4) Melbourne worked with Jack to agree on playing both 7's and Super rugby in 2020
5) And most of all, Melbourne showed faith and gave him a contract
RoffsChoice
Jim Lenehan (48)
If he was cutting ties and running without the consent of the Rebels, you could call it disloyalty.
If the Rebels said "No, stay, we're going to play you all season, you're key to our game plan, and we can see ourselves making the playoffs with you in the starting team", and he responded with "nah fuck you I'm off the Sydney", you could call it disloyalty.
If he went to the Rebels and said "hey, there's an opportunity for me to play fullback each week, I know that's my position, do you think I have that chance here?" and the Rebels said "No, DHP is our fullback, we consider you cover for the position but we're mostly going to play you on the wing. We'd love to keep you but we'll consent to a release if it works for you and the Tahs will pay the compensation.", that's not disloyalty.
If the Rebels said "No, stay, we're going to play you all season, you're key to our game plan, and we can see ourselves making the playoffs with you in the starting team", and he responded with "nah fuck you I'm off the Sydney", you could call it disloyalty.
If he went to the Rebels and said "hey, there's an opportunity for me to play fullback each week, I know that's my position, do you think I have that chance here?" and the Rebels said "No, DHP is our fullback, we consider you cover for the position but we're mostly going to play you on the wing. We'd love to keep you but we'll consent to a release if it works for you and the Tahs will pay the compensation.", that's not disloyalty.
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Alex Ross (28)
1 and 2 are the same and both lies. He was heavily sought after by all, including the Tahs, but he went to Melbourne because there was no way he was going to get Folau out of the Tah 15 jersey.
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Bobby Sands
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Maddocks isn’t even that good, let the Tahs have him. He probably suits them.
Lucas is already a better fullback prospect and he’s not physical enough for the wing at international level (yet) but he could become good (absolutely) if the penny drops.
I’d expect the Rebels to beat the Tahs this year - focus on players who want to be part of your program.
Lucas is already a better fullback prospect and he’s not physical enough for the wing at international level (yet) but he could become good (absolutely) if the penny drops.
I’d expect the Rebels to beat the Tahs this year - focus on players who want to be part of your program.
Mick The Munch
Bill McLean (32)
eastman
John Solomon (38)
I'm curious by what metrics make Lucas the better fullback prospect?
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Big difference between discussing the possibility of leaving and requesting a transfer. They should of held him to his contract, easy to blame others when things go wrong.
So the Rebels should have held Maddocks to his contract and made him stay but also got rid of him because he didn't want to be there?
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
dru
David Wilson (68)
Yes.. what part of that do you not understand
All of it.
Jimmy_Crouch
Peter Johnson (47)
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Hold him to the final year of his deal then let him go. Don’t let him dictate he wants to go a month out, it’s not up to the club to accommodate him.
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Bobby Sands
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Thankfully rugby players are rarely compared on metrics other than anecdotally ie after the fact to justify decisions.
It’s quite right that it’s not objective, but to my eye he’s a better player already. But let’s see shall we, feel free to bookmark this post.
Or leave some metrics.
Adam84
Rod McCall (65)
He requested months ago, he didn’t dictate it a month out. We’ve been through this.
You have absolutely no idea what is driving him to go home, often it’s personal reasons and needing their own support network. In the age of mental health awareness why would you not release a player if he has demonstrated a meaningful desire to be released to return home.
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
Size speed experience (jk)
He plays for the Reds .....................................................