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Quade - the BBQ Entertainer

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Peter Sullivan (51)
spectator said:
liquor box said:
cyclopath said:
Cooper was great, and reinforces my view that he would be my preferred pick over Beale (for example) IF I had to choose one or the other. Cooper at 10, Barnes at 12 might be a handy combo. Giteau could cover both from the bench...
Of course, it would be great if Beale rose to the occasion, as did Barnes, and we had some real options. Here's hoping.
I think Barnes is an ideal bench player, he could cover 10,12 and 15 quite well. If I had to start Barnes I would put him at 15
Too slow and not penetrative enough as a runner.
He can kick a ball and he doesn't look like a rabbit in headlights when he needs to tackle on someone big unlike O'Connor. My preference for 15 is Shepard but he is injured. I am not convinced by Hynes at 15.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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I think Hynes has taken to it like the proverbial Duck. And even though it is a long way off he looks like the front-runner for the Wallabies job to me.
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Too early to tell, I reckon half way through the season will give you a better indication on who are the form players.

Ideally what I want as a Wallaby supporter is depth in a few key positions. So I'm hoping all aussie players have good seasons for their franchise in their preferred position.
 
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TOCC

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TOCC said:
Quade is still a very young bloke, he now has a lot of experience behind him however mental maturity doesnt truly hit until your 21/22. I think Quade will finish 2010 as arguably the best 5/8 in the country

Shall i continue to quote myself every Rd that Quade is the best 5/8 in the country?
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
TOCC said:
TOCC said:
Quade is still a very young bloke, he now has a lot of experience behind him however mental maturity doesnt truly hit until your 21/22. I think Quade will finish 2010 as arguably the best 5/8 in the country

Shall i continue to quote myself every Rd that Quade is the best 5/8 in the country?
Quote no more TOCC. That, he definitely is.
 
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TOCC

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spectator said:
TOCC said:
TOCC said:
Quade is still a very young bloke, he now has a lot of experience behind him however mental maturity doesnt truly hit until your 21/22. I think Quade will finish 2010 as arguably the best 5/8 in the country

Shall i continue to quote myself every Rd that Quade is the best 5/8 in the country?
Quote no more TOCC. That, he definitely is.

reading back i noticed someone said they wont like Quade until he "cuts out that stupid kangaroo hop step" of his, i think it was however they same hopstep which set up 3 of the tries
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
TOCC said:
reading back i noticed someone said they wont like Quade until he "cuts out that stupid kangaroo hop step" of his, i think it was however they same hopstep which set up 3 of the tries

Rob Horne and Kurtley Beale put in a few hopsteps to very good effect and noone said a word.
 
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rugbywhisperer

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The relative incidents were noted.
Very important note to remember - when in the air a player has No control - can't do a thing other than to look blankly at the impending crunch.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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perhaps its a new technique? As a player can not be tackled whilst in the air they are safe?

Will we soon see players jumping down the field almost unstoppable?
 
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TOCC

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actually on revision of the tries, only one of the tries was directly attributed to Quades mid-air hopstep/jink, another try was attributed to your standard step, and the third try was more just about straight hard running from Will Chambers. Holme's was your standard old quick ball overlap.


However, i think two more linebreaks were directly as a result of Quade's mid-air hopstep/jink
 
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rugbywhisperer

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Noddy said:
perhaps its a new technique? As a player can not be tackled whilst in the air they are safe?
Will we soon see players jumping down the field almost unstoppable?

Forget which game it was about two weeks ago - someone did a vertical hop, didn't see or wasn't aware of the nearby defender and got creamed nicely for his effort.
Damned shame really, spoilt some good entertainment.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
I recall being told that jumping into the tackle with the ball is a penalty against the ball carrier. A Subbies coach said it, so take it however you want.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
Ash said:
I recall being told that jumping into the tackle with the ball is a penalty against the ball carrier. A Subbies coach said it, so take it however you want.

Never heard that. For a slow fellow like me it would mean alot of missed tackles so I doubt it.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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Ash said:
I recall being told that jumping into the tackle with the ball is a penalty against the ball carrier. A Subbies coach said it, so take it however you want.

Played with a guy who got pinged out of the game for it (was 20 years ago though....)
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
The relative incidents were noted.
Very important note to remember - when in the air a player has No control - can't do a thing other than to look blankly at the impending crunch.

Hence why it is done before the defensive line, or when the line is relatively stationary. Just because you don't understand it, can't do it, and choose to ignore all explanations to its purposes does not make it invalid.

There is a time and place for it, just like most of Coopers skills - the problem is that he needs to choose the right skill for the right time. Generally this year he has, but sometimes his brain is still letting him down.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
Scotty said:
The relative incidents were noted.
Very important note to remember - when in the air a player has No control - can't do a thing other than to look blankly at the impending crunch.

Hence why it is done before the defensive line, or when the line is relatively stationary. Just because you don't understand it, can't do it, and choose to ignore all explanations to its purposes does not make it invalid.

There is a time and place for it, just like most of Coopers skills - the problem is that he needs to choose the right skill for the right time. Generally this year he has, but sometimes his brain is still letting him down.

I agree. When combined with other tactics like holding the ball in both hands in front rather than under one arm, the hop-step can be very effective.
 
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TOCC

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you can argue the merits all day long, or you cant watch the sharks - reds replay and see Cooper create 2 linebreaks by performing the much criticised step.
 
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