Quade - the BBQ Entertainer

[Gagger]

Dropping balls cold in the in-goal and diving out of the way of Palu (did he even lay a hand?) are both things I'd hope our 'arguably best 5/8 by the end of 2010' wouldn't still be doing.

Beale just hasn't had the airtime - either at S14 or International - through injury

 

[Lindommer]

Yep, I'm sure Beale would have easily tackled Palu.

Well he did stop Fainga'a scoring a try in similar circumstances. At least Kurtley got underneath Saia and prevented him from plonking down the pill. Quade didn't even get close.

 

[spectator]

Dropping balls cold in the in-goal and diving out of the way of Palu (did he even lay a hand?) are both things I'd hope our 'arguably best 5/8 by the end of 2010' wouldn't still be doing.

Beale just hasn't had the airtime - either at S14 or International - through injury

Every player has 'mares', give me a break. If he has these moments week in, week out then I will give your comments some credence. Robinson dropped quite a bit of pill last week and is regarded by some as the best in his position. Should we slag off at him?

 

[spectator]

In my mind he is a goose until such a time as he loses that ridiculous bunny/kangaroo hop .

Campo's goosestep was not a thing of beauty either, but it was effective. The "bunny/kangaroo hop is the modern day sidestep, and can be bloody effective. Just ask Drew Mitchell, who was made to look like an absolute goose by Cooper in a Reds/Force game.

If there is to be a criticism I think he does it too often.

 

[TOCC]

Dropping balls cold in the in-goal and diving out of the way of Palu (did he even lay a hand?) are both things I'd hope our 'arguably best 5/8 by the end of 2010' wouldn't still be doing.

Beale just hasn't had the airtime - either at S14 or International - through injury

mate its just a opionion

 

[Scotty]

Well he did stop Fainga'a scoring a try in similar circumstances. At least Kurtley got underneath Saia and prevented him from plonking down the pill. Quade didn't even get close.

The NSW last line defense was certainly better than the Reds. Burgess also stopped a few himself. I'll grant that Coopers effort should have been much better, although he did appear to go for Palu's legs, the only way he was going to stop him effectively - he just forgot to hold on.

However, Fainga is a mosquito compared to Palu. We both know that.

 

[Gagger]

Dropping balls cold in the in-goal and diving out of the way of Palu (did he even lay a hand?) are both things I'd hope our 'arguably best 5/8 by the end of 2010' wouldn't still be doing.

If he has these moments week in, week out then I will give your comments some credence.

I must have been watching a different Quade Cooper, because the one I've seen does.

That's the whole point of the thread - he shows flashes but mixed with regular howlers; dropped pill, cut out passes that aren't required and worst defence in the S14 2009. Granted, his defence doesn't have to be perfect, but dead last isn't a good look; surely untenable for an international?

And to be honest, I didn't see that many flashes of brilliance last weekend. He was maybe above par on what were very ordinary performances from both backlines.

I hope you guys are right and he comes the goods, but I remember thinking on Saturday; "When is he going to cut that shit out?"

 

[Langthorne]

Robbie Deans hasn't really done very well as Wallaby coach, well the results haven't been too good anyway (and I don't buy the "doing everything really well, but we just aren't winning" nor the "gaining experience for the WC" lines).

That being the case, maybe Cooper being selected ahead of Beale (or anyone else), injuries aside, is not really much of a gauge of his talents or attainments.

Cooper has a lot of skills, tricks, physical ability. He is lacking in his decision making and his defence. Is this because of attitude, inexperience, both? Time will tell.

Yes, everyone makes mistakes, but some more than others.

 

[Lee Grant]

Geez there's a lot of tough judges on this thread. Beale has just turned 21 and Cooper is only about 9 months older.

It should be after this year and possibly even next that we should be judging them as harshly as we are now.

Cooper did some terrific things in Rd 1. Now and then he does a few flakey things but so long as his mistakes get fewer in the next couple of years he's going to wear a gold jersey for a while. On the other hand you wouldn't want him to have a career like Carlos Spencer who had too few years as a solid player.

Yes, he has to work on his defence, but you can't judge him on one tackle. The best in the business have bounced of big Cliffy.

Beale had a quieter game but damn near put Turner over in the corner with a nice kick smartly done after a turnover. He was better at dishing the ball wider than Carter was last year, though that is faint praise.

Although I noticed one bad missed tackle when he waved his arm at somebody early in the game as though saying G'day, his low tackling was very good. It seemed better on the RSA tour last year and I suspect his time with the Wallabies recently did him no harm in that department.

If he keeps it up he could get a few Oz caps also.

 

[TOCC]

Dropping balls cold in the in-goal and diving out of the way of Palu (did he even lay a hand?) are both things I'd hope our 'arguably best 5/8 by the end of 2010' wouldn't still be doing.

If he has these moments week in, week out then I will give your comments some credence.

I must have been watching a different Quade Cooper, because the one I've seen does.

That's the whole point of the thread - he shows flashes but mixed with regular howlers; dropped pill, cut out passes that aren't required and worst defence in the S14 2009. Granted, his defence doesn't have to be perfect, but dead last isn't a good look; surely untenable for an international?

And to be honest, I didn't see that many flashes of brilliance last weekend. He was maybe above par on what were very ordinary performances from both backlines.

I hope you guys are right and he comes the goods, but I remember thinking on Saturday; "When is he going to cut that shit out?"

one of those cut out passes set the braid try up, and well he outclassed Barnes in Rd1 and neither Harris or To'omua exactly set the world on fire, so like i said IMO he could finish the season as arguably the best 5/8.

Now i know people are going to single out Giteau as the obvious exception, well yes i love Giteau but his best poition IMO is 12 and i dont think he is best for 5/8.

 

[Spook]

Beale did nothing against QLD but is forming a new combo with Barnes.

 

[Sully]

What's the point Barnes will be gone next year.

 

[Spook]

Well well well. QC (Quade Cooper) does it again.

 

[louie]

Who's talking now?

Beale never been that good

 

[GC]

Commanding performance tonight. Have never seen Barnes play that well either. Can't see him back in the Wallabies back line unless injury or Quade banned.

One missed tackle (which did lead to a try) was the only blemish.

 

[Spook]

GC, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet. Very early in the year.

 

[GC]

True. It is early but his game has really come on since last year. Maybe Barnes' will too but if he keeps getting injured I can't see it. QC (Quade Cooper) to flyhalf and Gits to 12.

 

[Spook]

Barnes is a less spectacular player that Cooper. Less brilliance but more consistency. Better defense as well. If Cooper can improve in those areas you could be right.

 

[JJJ]

The kiwis on other boards are starting to talk about how we stole him from them in the first place, so he must be doing well.

 

[spectator]

That's what I'm talking about!!!