Quade telling it how it is

[Jiggles]

It's just a messy and sad situation really. Cooper is no saint in this situation however Deans has runs on the board with regards to hopeless man management and alienating strong personalities.

The way JON has run the ARU throughout the Deans tenure has left a really bad taste in my mouth, and this is just the final straw for me. It should not have come to this. The test this weekend will probably be the first wallabies game in over 20 years I choose not to watch. That's how disalussioned I am with the ARU right now.

 

[I like to watch]

I like to watch, what exactly do you like to watch?

Because rugby that Australia's a chance of winning doesn't appear to be it.

Berrick Barnes is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy. Mutton dressed as lamb.

Schmoo is washed up. He won't regain his pace after this latest set back.

Quade is one of the few sparks of brilliance that Australian rugby has going for it.

But hey, let's all band together and thin out our talent pool and wonder why we haven't won the Bledisloe for 20 years.

Losing Quade is not the answer to Australian Rugby's problems.

You are clearly confusing his performances with the Reds with his performance with the Wobs.
He is not the guy to build a Test team around.Test matches are about being uncompromising and never giving an inch. There is 14 points(7 points either way) up for grabs every time he touches the ball.

Anyway it's all irrelevant.
He knew the consequences before he went on that show, he did it deliberately.He is not coming back because he has other plans.

 

[waratahjesus]

I like to watch, what exactly do you like to watch?

Because rugby that Australia's a chance of winning doesn't appear to be it.

Berrick Barnes is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy. Mutton dressed as lamb.

Schmoo is washed up. He won't regain his pace after this latest set back.

Quade is one of the few sparks of brilliance that Australian rugby has going for it.

But hey, let's all band together and thin out our talent pool and wonder why we haven't won the Bledisloe for 20 years.

Losing Quade is not the answer to Australian Rugby's problems.

If the wallabies are a heard of buffalo, Quade is the one limping around who although the elders have tried to shield has decided he would be better off avoiding his predators on his own.

Quade is responsible for this, excusing Quade and blaming others will not make Quade take responsibility or find maturity. The ARU are not the big bad, if they fall over themselves to appease him it actually makes one player bigger than the jersey and in any sport at any level that is wrong.

 

[Bon]

Strueth! What a thread. Cooper sure has the ability to make a dick of himself. I think the best thing that could happen for Wallaby rugby right now is for Kurtley Beale to play a blinder in SA.And I hope he does. After witnessing the circus surrounding SBW during the time he was in NZ I sympathize with you blokes. It's not a fair go on the rest of the team at all. Nasser should gather up both Williams and Cooper and ship them off to France,or Japan,or anywhere.

 

[Scoey]

Quade's flashy shit doesn't work when it counts anyway. He's got what it takes to be part of sides that can defeat the boks (about half the time) and everyone below them (almost all of the time) but so have all the other solutions we've had at 10 since Larkham retired.

The guy shits the bed against the ABs and for my money that means he can fuck off if he doesn't like the colour of the money he's getting.

I'd rather be shit than settle for distant 2nd, but some people have a different view and that's cool.

Oh the irony! I hate to be the one to tell you but this has pretty much been Quade's opinion from the start! Except for the 'that's cool' bit. Pretty sure QC (Quade Cooper) thinks it's not cool.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

...snip......i predict 60 pages by 5pm tomorrow

20 hours to go to your deadline and only 10 more pages to meet the target. Should be fairly easy.

 

[Jnor]

Jealously?? Marto has lost it

Marto would have to find it first.

Marto had it?

 

[p.Tah]

The test this weekend will probably be the first wallabies game in over 20 years I choose not to watch. That's how disalussioned I am with the ARU right now.

Jiggles, I know how you feel. However in the end it's just a game. Ignore the politics and the noise. Perhaps look at it this way, Kurtley is playing 10 in a Test Match wearing a Wallabies jersey. Many of us have been waiting for this since he emerged as a 15 year old, 8 years ago. In rugby development terms it's a pretty significant test match for that reason alone.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

20 hours to go to your deadline and only 10 more pages to meet the target. Should be fairly easy.

It's a no brainer but now I'm worried I underestimated it...wait until our European and other expats see that there have been 20 pages added in a day.
Still I cannot remember anything quite like this in oz rugby.
Strange days.



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[Inside Shoulder]

Jiggles, I know how you feel. However in the end it's just a game. Ignore the politics and the noise. Perhaps look at it this way, Kurtley is playing 10 in a Teat match wearing a Wallabies jersey. Many of us have been waiting for this since he emerged as a 15 year old, 8 years ago. In rugby development terms it's a pretty significant test match for that reason alone.

I'm no KB (Kurtley Beale) fan,certainly at 10, but this is his chance and ill be more than happy to admit I was wrong: cometh the hour cometh the man.


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[Hugh Jarse]

I really wonder about his ability to cope with all the pressure that this has brought on.

I hope he doesn't do anything silly (or more silly) that he will regret.

It will be be a time where he needs to be surrounded by people who love him unconditionally, and not sycophants.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I really wonder about his ability to cope with all the pressure that this has brought on.

I hope he doesn't do anything silly (or more silly) that he will regret.

It will be be a time where he needs to be surrounded by people who love him unconditionally, and not sycophants.

He will find neither on GGR


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[p.Tah]

Hugh that's a pretty good sentiment. As I said above it's just a game. He's done something foolish, but I hope for his sake it works out for him.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

For QC (Quade Cooper), this is a time for family and very close friends.

He has chosen to take on a very big machine, and in doing so, the manner in which he has adopted to do so has alienated many of "the swinging voters". I get the sense that he is about to get a real big dose of reality, and learn what the market actually thinks about him and his playing ability. This is often in stark contrast to what advisors have painted reality to be like, and it can hit hard when it hits.

To date he really hasn't demonstrated much of a capacity to deal with these.

 

[burngreg]

As a AB supporter I'm sorry to see Quade go. As Carlos Spencer Mark II he had the possibility of pulling something magical out of the bag and crumbling badly under pressure. I felt confident we'd never lose the Bledisloe whilst he was playing for Aus. Definitely the occasional test but not 2 consistently. Anyhow this afternoon sport radio in NZ interviewed Nick Farr Jones about the whole debacle. http://www.radiosport.co.nz/player/ondemand/1510243793-cooper-speaks-out-over-wallabies-environment

 

[AngrySeahorse]

As a AB supporter I'm sorry to see Quade go. As Carlos Spencer Mark II he had the possibility of pulling something magical out of the bag and crumbling badly under pressure. I felt confident we'd never lose the Bledisloe whilst he was playing for Aus. Definitely the occasional test but not 2 consistently. Anyhow this afternoon sport radio in NZ interviewed Nick Farr Jones about the whole debacle. http://www.radiosport.co.nz/player/ondemand/1510243793-cooper-speaks-out-over-wallabies-environment

Thank you for posting burngreg, good little interview.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Some very astute words from NFJ in that audio.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Clearly some frustration coming through in NFJ's comments.

 

[Torn Hammy]

Yes my post was an exaggeration, unfortunately that has distracted from my point about Khoder.

His liking for Malcolm X stems from people having the balls to stand by their convictions. What David Pocock and Malcolm X have in common in Khoder's ideology, is they have made a stand that will bring a better life to those who are marginalized. SBW, Quade and Mundine were not marginalized. He has manufactured situations to develop a seize mentality in his camp. Haters are gonna hate boys, we've got to stand up for our beliefs and get our fair share in this world.

As you have said in an earlier post it's all about ego and money for him. If that floats his boat that's fine

The part I have an issue with is how he has gone about it. As you have said 'these are young media novices and easy targets for those who disagree with them.' They are not articulate individuals who can deftly handle debate in a public forum. Instead they give sound bites that polarize and in the eyes of some, damage their reputation. A manager who truly cared about his client would not put a naive individual (SBW and Quade) into a situation such as this.

Over the last 2 years it has worked out for SBW, but there has been a lot of luck along the way. He has been injury free, played in great teams with excellent coaches. Will Quade have similar luck? Time will tell, but Quade is not SBW and there aren't many teams like the All Blacks, Crusaders or Chiefs around to provide him the opportunities.

Ultimately I don't like how he tells his clients to have balls and rattle the cages in the public forum when they are not skilled to do it whilst he hides from the media. He likes to pull the strings but hide from the heat.

I admire your balls for putting forward the argument that a non drinking, non smoking, clean living, Aboriginal and Muslim, hero and outspoken advocate of Indigenous people is not marginalised in contemporary Australia.

What Nasser gives these guys is choices and opportunities and therefore a sense of importance and value. Please compare that to the condescending and mocking JON missive that virtually said 'accept the offer or f... off'. A message aimed not only at QC (Quade Cooper), but also to others in the team who might be thinking of adding to the argument.

 

[Antony]

Cooper just got smashed by the ARU with there press release on twitter.

Hey mate, can you post it if possible? Twitter may as well be written in dutch for all I can find my way around it.

Edit: Found it after an adventure through cyber-space. It was just the one posted a few pages back.