Quade telling it how it is

[en_force_er]

I blame the internet, TV and food colouring.

I, for one, blame the New Zealand primary school education system. Come on NZ, the buck clearly stops with you.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Sorry, I got my facts mixed up.

But I was spot on when I said excuses count for nothing.

No excuses from me. It was a difficult season and we didn't get the chocolates at the end. Reds last 20 was very good in that final. It is what it is.

Back to Quade, I don't see an issue with the whole "expansive/risk rugby" comments, but the whole timing of his reaction/tweets were pretty poor IMO. Doing it when he's not in contention for selection, not in the sheds with his team mates on game day?

 

[I like to watch]

Primary School in NZ,the best 10 years of his life.........

 

[ACT Crusader]

Primary School in NZ,the best 10 years of his life...

Primary School in NZ is code for playing spacies at the corner dairy...

 

[redstragic]

I blame the internet, TV and food colouring.

Apparently it's the tartrazine. I blame that, and all the recent UFO activity.

 

[emuarse]

Cooper is as gutless off the field as he is on it.

Piss him off to league where he belongs, there are better 10s in Aus than this flaky goose.

I am actually trying to remember the last decent game he played as a Wallaby, anyone?

Oh hang on, it was against heavyweights the US of A at the WC, right?

Such eloquence, you certainly have a way with words. And an encyclopedic memory to boot. But unfortunately your rantings would tempt any player to forego this code and change to league. In fact, why don't you go too? No loss.

 

[Jnor]

So Saint Quade is totally blameless . . ..

I really wish some people would accepted the concept of personnel responsibility.

Freudian slip? It's actually JON/the ARU/Robbie's fault!

 

[Schadenfreude]

Quade has learned no humility.

Great players learn from their mistakes and look at themselves first.

Quade goes on twitter and sticks the knife into the coach and ARU.

He has no class.

Reds supporters - take your blinders off.

To be fair, Deans bagged him first.

 

[en_force_er]

To get back on track, I do like Quade.

Between his twitter feed and his work bumming around with kids after trainings he does a heap for the game, I hope he doesn't leave. I'm sure him and Deans have a stilted relationship and that QC (Quade Cooper) doesn't like his style of play but that's never an excuse to bring the media into it.

Some might say Deans brought the media into it first but I think he was merely candidly answering questions, something he gets publicly bagged for not doing enough (even on this thread). Still, Deans probably have used one of his classic cryptic answers in that situation.

Oh, and the people saying it's John O'Niels fault are drawing a pretty long bow. For all John's mistakes this has very very little to do with him directly.

 

[Tangawizi]

Not JON's fault? Who approved the current contracting system then?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Have you ever met Quade? If not, you nothing of the guy. All I know about you, is what you type on here. So is it ok for me to make a judgement about your morals and values? Or the amount of class or humility you have?

Kiwi's - take your blinkers off.

I haven't met Dan carter.
But I've never heard of a stupid tweet of his.
I've never heard of him going on with rubbish at contract renewal time.
I've never heard of him drinking on the morning of a game. (KB (Kurtley Beale) AND QC (Quade Cooper) reportedly in the bar before the Auckland test after midnight) (note: heard - this isn't about the truth of it, at the moment).
I've never heard of him nicking a laptop, climbing trough a window to do so.
I've never heard of him getting into biffo with a bouncer with a fellow AB.

Now I reckon if there was a hint of any of this around DC we'd have heard about it.
And he's had serious career threatening injuries just like QC (Quade Cooper).
I'm prepared to think DC is a decent bloke even though he is the enemy because he has never done anything to cause me to doubt it and when he drops the ball it's not for want of effort.

either QC (Quade Cooper) is a a problem child or he doesn't understand what being a celebrity is about, or both. And by tweeting he chooses the celebrity path - hell Carter only got a twitter account in the last month!

The ARU and Deans should have stamped out this attitude when JOC (James O'Connor) didn't front for the photo call.

No one can ever be bigger than the team.

DC is not bigger than the ABs so how could anyone else be bigger than the team they're in?


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[Athilnaur]

I don't blame the reds supporters for backing Quade so heavily, but I'd lay money Quade is privately wishing he didn't hit send. His tweets were utterly inappropriate, showed no respect to Deans, the Wallabies, or even to rugby.

Fact is he has been limited at test level, and Deans backed him throughout the RWC. Deans has also been shown to be right in saying he wasn't ready in the Wales series.

If Cooper goes the biggest loser will be Qld rugby. But blaming Deans for Coopers stupidities is, frankly, just a reflection of how incredibly one eyed some people on this forum are.

 

[en_force_er]

Not JON's fault? Who approved the current contracting system then?

Like I said... drawing a long bow.

Are the ARU undervaluing Cooper or is Cooper's agent asking for a ridiculous sum (his name escapes me but nobody cares for him)? Maybe the contracting issues are because QC (Quade Cooper) has play around 8 games this year and he wants to be payed like a player who's as fresh a daisy? I can't say for sure, I'm not in the office during negotiations.

Is it the fault of the GFC? Or the IRB for setting up a WC that drains ARU funds that could be used to retain Cooper.

If you draw a long bow everything is everyones fault, let's keep it micro. This is a fight between a coach who's structures are perceived as pedestrian and a player who rightfully or wrongfully has a massive ego. This fight is exacerbating the contracting situation... or maybe the contracting situation is exacerbating it. It's really a chicken V egg situation.

Point is, let's not get silly and think the sky's falling because of one individuals contract issues.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I can't say for sure, I'm not in the office during negotiations.

Since when?
and since when has that stopped any of us?

 

[en_force_er]

Since when?
and since when has that stopped any of us?

Maybe one day, I'm only in my early twenties so if anyone in high profiles rugby circles is reading this pick me up while you still have the chance, it won't be long.






... anyone? No? Okay.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Maybe one day, I'm only in my early twenties so if anyone in high profiles rugby circles is reading this pick me up while you still have the chance, it won't be long.






. anyone? No? Okay.

Nah - youre past it!

 

[en_force_er]

Nah - youre past it!

There's life in these aching bones yet.

 

[nugget]

I haven't met Dan carter.
But I've never heard of a stupid tweet of his.
I've never heard of him going on with rubbish at contract renewal time.
I've never heard of him drinking on the morning of a game. (KB (Kurtley Beale) AND QC (Quade Cooper) reportedly in the bar before the Auckland test after midnight) (note: heard - this isn't about the truth of it, at the moment).
I've never heard of him nicking a laptop, climbing trough a window to do so.
I've never heard of him getting into biffo with a bouncer with a fellow AB.

Now I reckon if there was a hint of any of this around DC we'd have heard about it.
And he's had serious career threatening injuries just like QC (Quade Cooper).
I'm prepared to think DC is a decent bloke even though he is the enemy because he has never done anything to cause me to doubt it and when he drops the ball it's not for want of effort.

either QC (Quade Cooper) is a a problem child or he doesn't understand what being a celebrity is about, or both. And by tweeting he chooses the celebrity path - hell Carter only got a twitter account in the last month!

The ARU and Deans should have stamped out this attitude when JOC (James O'Connor) didn't front for the photo call.

No one can ever be bigger than the team.

DC is not bigger than the ABs so how could anyone else be bigger than the team they're in?


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Amen Brother. Man, I.S., you are like the fountain of truth and light today. A beacon of light in the darkness, a shining light to lead the way, something to do with light, (a light on the hill?), (a 1000 points of light?) or something anyway it's good whatever it is. Tell it! Dang!

 

[Inside Shoulder]

There's life in these aching bones yet.

Ok - you're starting at 10

 

[Tangawizi]

It'd actually be very interesting to see the reaction of the NZ public if Quade did a reverse Brad Thorn and played league for the Kiwis (with his mate Sonny Bill).

All he'd have to do is tick a box to be eligible.