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Nice to hear from you Mr Filth - what's it going to be like linking up with 4 of your mortal enemies in order of your distaste - Uni, GPS, Wests, Norths.
How will Sam Green go as your #10?
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Nice to hear from you Mr Filth - what's it going to be like linking up with 4 of your mortal enemies in order of your distaste - Uni, GPS, Wests, Norths.
How will Sam Green go as your #10?
TT so good to have you back. I had to double check that I hadn't missed Christmas.
Here's who I'd pick in the South Brisbane Brothel Goers
1. Anae
2. Ready
3. Holmes
4. Bennett
5. Enever
6. Quirk
7. Robinson/Gunn
8. Schatz
9. Evans
10. B Lucas
11. Lepierre
12. Tapuai
13. CFS/White
14. Placid
15. Toua
I'd be pretty happy with this team. Lock is the only major area of concern but Enever should step up, think it may be a big year for him in 2014 with the Reds.
As for a coach I don't think Woody should be involved but could see Stiles and Meehan taking the 2 Brisbane teams. I'd want Meehan for the South side team.
Here's who I'd pick in the South Brisbane Brothel Goers
1. Anae
2. Ready
3. Holmes
4. Bennett
5. Enever
6. Quirk
7. Robinson/Gunn
8. Schatz
9. Evans
10. B Lucas
11. Lepierre
12. Tapuai
13. CFS/White
14. Placid
15. Toua
I'd be pretty happy with this team. Lock is the only major area of concern but Enever should step up, think it may be a big year for him in 2014 with the Reds.
As for a coach I don't think Woody should be involved but could see Stiles and Meehan taking the 2 Brisbane teams. I'd want Meehan for the South side team.
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Jets I have been moon lighting over on the 3rd tier forum - sticking it up those cocky Sydneyites.
I like your side but I would have Anae at hooker and start Petowa Parraka (he is a freak). For a guy with such great strength he has amazing hands. I think of all the Easts GF side I think he is the most likely to represent the Wallabies one day.
I also wouldn't be afraid to give Stolberg a start I think he would rise to the challenge of playing at a higher level.
Is Evans at #9 tokenism? Is he really a better half back than Ben Meehan?
I like Lucas at #10, and if you put Mullins at #9 they would combine for a second time in their playing careers given Mullins (yr. 11) played at #12 outside Lucas#10 in the 2005 Gregory Terrace 1st XV.
In 2006 Mullins played at #10 and his direct opponents that year were Cooper(ACGS), To'omua (BSHS) & O'Connor(Nudgee). Mullins may not have risen to Wallaby status like the other 3 but he has played in a Brisbane premiership side something that the other three have not.
In fact did To'omua every play club rugby in Brisbane or did he go straight to the Brumbies after school. I know JOC (James O'Connor) has never played club rugby in Bne. Quade of course is a Magpie and was an Aces player back in ARC2007.
I like your side but I would have Anae at hooker and start Petowa Parraka (he is a freak). For a guy with such great strength he has amazing hands. I think of all the Easts GF side I think he is the most likely to represent the Wallabies one day.
I also wouldn't be afraid to give Stolberg a start I think he would rise to the challenge of playing at a higher level.
Is Evans at #9 tokenism? Is he really a better half back than Ben Meehan?
I like Lucas at #10, and if you put Mullins at #9 they would combine for a second time in their playing careers given Mullins (yr. 11) played at #12 outside Lucas#10 in the 2005 Gregory Terrace 1st XV.
In 2006 Mullins played at #10 and his direct opponents that year were Cooper(ACGS), To'omua (BSHS) & O'Connor(Nudgee). Mullins may not have risen to Wallaby status like the other 3 but he has played in a Brisbane premiership side something that the other three have not.
In fact did To'omua every play club rugby in Brisbane or did he go straight to the Brumbies after school. I know JOC (James O'Connor) has never played club rugby in Bne. Quade of course is a Magpie and was an Aces player back in ARC2007.
To'omua played juniors for Beenleigh. Closest I saw JOC (James O'Connor) come to club rugby was when he played for the Hunt family team in a 7's tournament at Sunnybank in his last year of school, would have played somewhere on the coast when younger.
I'm not a Mullins fan, but haven't seen him play in a while. Guess it's hard for the others to play in a Brisbane premiership when they are playing Super Rugby and not linked to a Brisbane Club.
Happy to add Parraka to the front row but see more value in Anae at LHP. Daley has to come into the picture too.
Also could throw in Maile Ngauamo into the hooker mix. He's been training with the Reds too.
Never rated Stolberg, but like Mullins, haven't seen him play this year and he is a massive unit. I guess that's what the NRC is all about.
Is there some issue with White? He seems to cut teams apart, from some highlights I've seen, yet no pro team is looking at him. Might be looking OS in coming years.
I'm not a Mullins fan, but haven't seen him play in a while. Guess it's hard for the others to play in a Brisbane premiership when they are playing Super Rugby and not linked to a Brisbane Club.
Happy to add Parraka to the front row but see more value in Anae at LHP. Daley has to come into the picture too.
Also could throw in Maile Ngauamo into the hooker mix. He's been training with the Reds too.
Never rated Stolberg, but like Mullins, haven't seen him play this year and he is a massive unit. I guess that's what the NRC is all about.
Is there some issue with White? He seems to cut teams apart, from some highlights I've seen, yet no pro team is looking at him. Might be looking OS in coming years.
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Jets - happy with your assessment. I would also rather have Meehan coach the "Sth Bne Sharks"
I can assure you that there is no issue with White - the only thing that S15 sides might mark him down on is that he just needs another yard of pace for the next level. He was the better performed #13 in both the major and grand finals v GPS.
I understand your comment with regard to MT & JOC (James O'Connor) not playing in Bne club land but it was just a throw away line. Having said that I was really happy for Mullins to captain a premiership side - true clubman.
I will go back in my box until after Christmas as I have Ashes cricket to follow.
So Merry Christmas and Happy NY.
What a great 2013 for the Tigers lets hope for an even bigger one for the Tigers and Sharks in 2014.
Regards
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I can assure you that there is no issue with White - the only thing that S15 sides might mark him down on is that he just needs another yard of pace for the next level. He was the better performed #13 in both the major and grand finals v GPS.
I understand your comment with regard to MT & JOC (James O'Connor) not playing in Bne club land but it was just a throw away line. Having said that I was really happy for Mullins to captain a premiership side - true clubman.
I will go back in my box until after Christmas as I have Ashes cricket to follow.
So Merry Christmas and Happy NY.
What a great 2013 for the Tigers lets hope for an even bigger one for the Tigers and Sharks in 2014.
Regards
Tigers Tale
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Nev Cottrell (35)
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Billy Sheehan (19)
Just using reds players from the north side (who probably won't be wallabies without injury)
1 Sef faaganse
2 Chibba/ Fiangaa
3 Jonno Owen
4 o'donoghue
5 McDuling
6 browning
7
8
9 frisby
10 Harris
11 shipperly/kuridrani
12 ant fiangaa
13 samu kerevi
14 rocket
15 Jj Tualugi/turner (assuming he goes GPS)
Not a lot of room for amateur premier players without top end injuries
1 Sef faaganse
2 Chibba/ Fiangaa
3 Jonno Owen
4 o'donoghue
5 McDuling
6 browning
7
8
9 frisby
10 Harris
11 shipperly/kuridrani
12 ant fiangaa
13 samu kerevi
14 rocket
15 Jj Tualugi/turner (assuming he goes GPS)
Not a lot of room for amateur premier players without top end injuries
TheBigDog
Nev Cottrell (35)
Just a little info tidbit - JOC (James O'Connor) did actually play a season or two for Brothers in juniors. I know he played a few games there in under 16s, possible another season as well I believe.
tigerland12
John Thornett (49)
Now that explains a lot about how he's turned out.....
Connor Mitchell for 7, been really impressed the 2 times I've watched him play. Cornelsen for 8? Never seen him play but heard some good things.
Red Heavy
Billy Sheehan (19)
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Who was the backrow from GPS? Fergy was the 7 wasnt he? And do norths still have the premier player of the year from a few years back?
I would probably go with Luke beachump from brothers and just move Curtis to 8. Cornelsen was impressive at colts level but still has to grow into his body for the step up.
Who was the backrow from GPS? Fergy was the 7 wasnt he? And do norths still have the premier player of the year from a few years back?
FilthRugby
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Red Heavy, I agree, I think Beauchamp, Schultz, Gendle, Bond, Creighton and Murphy should all be considered from Brothers, but no doubt University and Jeeps will dominant the North team and they deserve it in a way due to Brothers, Norths and Wests having a few off years and still rebuilding.
SouthernX
Jim Lenehan (48)
Lol brothers ain't rebuilding.
Have they missed the semi finals since 2005? I can't recall. They're stacked.. they just don't have the firepower to compete come finals time.
TheBigDog
Nev Cottrell (35)
I'd argue Brothers are trying to rebuild on a club level rather than in Prems. As you say SX they have plenty of talent but the reason they can't compete at finals time is lack of depth. Prems and Prem Colts have been strong recently but some of the lower grades have been whipping boys for a while now.
Rugrat
Darby Loudon (17)
I predict that quite a few non contracted players mentioned in this forum will get pinched to play in Melbourne , WA and ACT. They will go with the promise of some cash, accom and possible franchise contract at the end of the season (mostly lies but it will work). Not sure how 2 teams controlled by the QRU will allocate players evenly and fairly. They will want at least one team to do well. Very hard to think of a sporting organisation in the world that successfully fields 2 teams in the same comp. (just ask Mark Webber how that works out in car racing) my guess is after 1 season the QRU will hand back one team to NSW.
twenty seven
Tom Lawton (22)
Can you blame non-contracted players for going?
I believe that there are a few who may fair well to try outside of QLD.
Looking forward to watching more rugby!
TrainerGB
Ward Prentice (10)
Considering the amount of Reds and QRU boys involved in the Wallabies (not too many really), there will be plenty of talent running around in Brisbane to fill at least two teams surely?
Along with the likes of the very talented club players who are on the fringe or involved in Aus 7s programs, and the other fringe players from Brisbane at other Super XV franchises, and even overseas based players looking at returning..... shouldn't be too hard to field 2/3 competitive teams??
BUT if this is the way it is going to be.... why would a club want to put in a lot of time, effort and money to field a team when its going to be dictated to them who is playing for them?? Where is the benefit for the club/s? A % of the gate takings only?
If they are going to be controlled by the ARU or even the QRU to a lesser extent, then shouldn't they be putting together the required funding, ($350k or whatever it was) as they are protecting/improving their assets etc.
What sort of returns would the club/s actually get from their investment into this format?
Loose and radical example: Norths (I said radical) put in for a licence(?) and get it. GPS dont. Brothers dont.
Frisby, Bond, Shipperly, Kite, Kuridrani etc are disbursed to the Norths team to play. Are they then Norths club players? Should they be playing club for Norths?? They will be advertised on the TV as Norths players?? Essentially Norths could have a rubbish club team but outstanding franchise team?? Where is the benefit??
I think, and have thought this from the start - Seperate entities & franchises.
Lets call them Northside and Southside.
Initially (1-2 years) controlled and funded by the QRU. (they put the right people in the right places to control these Franchises during the set up period of a couple of seasons then they are on their own from there. Seperate boards, directors, staff, coaches etc) There are plenty of good rugby people not involved in club rugby at the moment for various reasons. Wouldnt be too hard to fill the positions.
Each club is alligned with a Franchise. You can only play for that franchise if you play for the alligned club. Super Rugby players included. Maybe a small allocation for draft players? 2-3 per squad.
That is then your club players target, goal, ambition etc. So the pathway is: Prems - Franchise - Reds - Wallabies.
E.g. If there are 3 outstanding fullbacks on the Southside, and 3 average ones on the Northside, one may decide to head to a Northside club team, to try and get into the Northside franchise. This will obviously boost the Northside team he decides to go to and of course even out the comp a bit in the process.
Just thinking out loud... quietly....
Along with the likes of the very talented club players who are on the fringe or involved in Aus 7s programs, and the other fringe players from Brisbane at other Super XV franchises, and even overseas based players looking at returning..... shouldn't be too hard to field 2/3 competitive teams??
BUT if this is the way it is going to be.... why would a club want to put in a lot of time, effort and money to field a team when its going to be dictated to them who is playing for them?? Where is the benefit for the club/s? A % of the gate takings only?
If they are going to be controlled by the ARU or even the QRU to a lesser extent, then shouldn't they be putting together the required funding, ($350k or whatever it was) as they are protecting/improving their assets etc.
What sort of returns would the club/s actually get from their investment into this format?
Loose and radical example: Norths (I said radical) put in for a licence(?) and get it. GPS dont. Brothers dont.
Frisby, Bond, Shipperly, Kite, Kuridrani etc are disbursed to the Norths team to play. Are they then Norths club players? Should they be playing club for Norths?? They will be advertised on the TV as Norths players?? Essentially Norths could have a rubbish club team but outstanding franchise team?? Where is the benefit??
I think, and have thought this from the start - Seperate entities & franchises.
Lets call them Northside and Southside.
Initially (1-2 years) controlled and funded by the QRU. (they put the right people in the right places to control these Franchises during the set up period of a couple of seasons then they are on their own from there. Seperate boards, directors, staff, coaches etc) There are plenty of good rugby people not involved in club rugby at the moment for various reasons. Wouldnt be too hard to fill the positions.
Each club is alligned with a Franchise. You can only play for that franchise if you play for the alligned club. Super Rugby players included. Maybe a small allocation for draft players? 2-3 per squad.
That is then your club players target, goal, ambition etc. So the pathway is: Prems - Franchise - Reds - Wallabies.
E.g. If there are 3 outstanding fullbacks on the Southside, and 3 average ones on the Northside, one may decide to head to a Northside club team, to try and get into the Northside franchise. This will obviously boost the Northside team he decides to go to and of course even out the comp a bit in the process.
Just thinking out loud... quietly....
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