QLD GPS Rugby 2018
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Chris McKivat (8)
Both TGS centers are from league with one been in his 3rd year of union and the other in his second. I doubt they were also playing their first choice wingers as well with both the boys that played hardly sighted during the trials. The two they seemed to favor during the trials are both injured, both have very strong defensive games and seemed to have a better combination with the fullback so this may have been the difference. TGS were right in the game up until about 5 to 10 minutes into the second half then just lost it. Full marks to TSS though to identify cinch in the amour of TGS and to exploit it with a smart kicking game and a try route with most of the tries been scored down the outside edges.
Blue & white
Billy Sheehan (19)
Premiership contenders V3
Engrave the Trophy
IGS 13A & BBC 16 A
On a Roll
BSHS 14 A-who can stop them ?
The Bradbury award
15 A - of the contenders only BBC are undefeated- but will not remain that way
Is it a coincidence?
in the 1st xv and 2nd x -the same 3 schools are undefeated-TSS/NC/BBC
Me thinks not.
Engrave the Trophy
IGS 13A & BBC 16 A
On a Roll
BSHS 14 A-who can stop them ?
The Bradbury award
15 A - of the contenders only BBC are undefeated- but will not remain that way
Is it a coincidence?
in the 1st xv and 2nd x -the same 3 schools are undefeated-TSS/NC/BBC
Me thinks not.
Blue & white
Billy Sheehan (19)
Have to admit you are right--who has the most 18 year olds in 1st xv-TSS by a long way -then NC.
Same as last year.
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
^ You sure about that Blue ?
TSS yes but Nudgee ? Really ?
And I’d put an asterix on the BBC 16A’s too . They should ....but it is no sure thing after a narrow escape v Downlands on the weekend
10-7 on the final play of the game and try to BBC for a hard fought 15-7 win
The Downlands boys were very impressive and played tough , committed Rugby
TSS yes but Nudgee ? Really ?
And I’d put an asterix on the BBC 16A’s too . They should ....but it is no sure thing after a narrow escape v Downlands on the weekend
10-7 on the final play of the game and try to BBC for a hard fought 15-7 win
The Downlands boys were very impressive and played tough , committed Rugby
TheKing
Colin Windon (37)
I don't have TSS' ages, but NC is certainly immune to this criticism in 2018.
Bailey Tautau and Jangala Bennet are the only 18 year olds in the team. There are five guys 16-or-under (including a 15 year old), and the rest are 17.
Tune in next year and we'll see if the balance has tipped to 18-year-olds, but it sure ain't this year.
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
Well we're approaching the half way mark of the season between now and into next week given that the Ekka is about to win town
It's sort of interesting looking back at the sentiment and some of the statements from over the Summer through to Easter time
Probably the most noteworthy was the expectation in Terrace's performance given some initial indignation at their position at 4th to 5th on the first issue of The Owen's Book , and the reasoning for this was because of the high level of prior representation from U16 Representative Rugby
As it stands heading into the mid point of the season is that Terrace look like they could be fighting TGS for 4th to 5th spot in the last round , if , and assuming , BBC manage to defeat IGS away ( this week ) and TGS at home in 3 weeks.
For now ......it sort of looks like ( and projection in bold from November last year )
1. TSS ( TSS )
2. NC ( NC )
3. BBC ( BBC )
4.TGS ( TGS )
5. GT ( GT )
6. ACGS ( ACGS )
7. IGS ( BGS )
8. BGS ( IGS )
9. BSHS ( BSHS )
The last round is highly likely set up ( accidentally of course ) to determine 1 through 3 and 4 through 6 with the critical match ups being
NC v TSS at Ross Oval
TGS v GT at TGS Main Oval
For now you would safely assume the Top 3 to be in the order they are , however , BBC are right in the mix to challenge NC at Miskin Oval in Round 7 - and if they were to get up , and NC roll TSS on Ross Oval ( not beyond the realms of impossibility ) you could end up with a 3 way shared Premiership
Also of interest several months ago when there was a lot of early chat about the bonafides of prior Representative honours and this guy that guy etc ( principally used as a justification as to why Terrace deserved to be ranked higher ) ................... a sub discussion as to the prospects of outside backs in the competition was entered into and it was dared to be uttered that a few U16 outside backs might have something to say about the claims of others as to who is who in the zoo
The 3 x U16 names mentioned were Grant Tuisamoa, Tresman Banjo and Xavier Savage - several months later - and after the first few rounds the latter two are probably two of the hottest names in GPS Rugby at the moment ( as U16 players ) with GT representing QLD 2 off the bench down at Nationals
As we approach the half way mark to the season over the course of the next week - jump in with a look back to now , or , jump in with your tips for how you see the rest of the season unfolding
It's sort of interesting looking back at the sentiment and some of the statements from over the Summer through to Easter time
Probably the most noteworthy was the expectation in Terrace's performance given some initial indignation at their position at 4th to 5th on the first issue of The Owen's Book , and the reasoning for this was because of the high level of prior representation from U16 Representative Rugby
As it stands heading into the mid point of the season is that Terrace look like they could be fighting TGS for 4th to 5th spot in the last round , if , and assuming , BBC manage to defeat IGS away ( this week ) and TGS at home in 3 weeks.
For now ......it sort of looks like ( and projection in bold from November last year )
1. TSS ( TSS )
2. NC ( NC )
3. BBC ( BBC )
4.TGS ( TGS )
5. GT ( GT )
6. ACGS ( ACGS )
7. IGS ( BGS )
8. BGS ( IGS )
9. BSHS ( BSHS )
The last round is highly likely set up ( accidentally of course ) to determine 1 through 3 and 4 through 6 with the critical match ups being
NC v TSS at Ross Oval
TGS v GT at TGS Main Oval
For now you would safely assume the Top 3 to be in the order they are , however , BBC are right in the mix to challenge NC at Miskin Oval in Round 7 - and if they were to get up , and NC roll TSS on Ross Oval ( not beyond the realms of impossibility ) you could end up with a 3 way shared Premiership
Also of interest several months ago when there was a lot of early chat about the bonafides of prior Representative honours and this guy that guy etc ( principally used as a justification as to why Terrace deserved to be ranked higher ) ................... a sub discussion as to the prospects of outside backs in the competition was entered into and it was dared to be uttered that a few U16 outside backs might have something to say about the claims of others as to who is who in the zoo
The 3 x U16 names mentioned were Grant Tuisamoa, Tresman Banjo and Xavier Savage - several months later - and after the first few rounds the latter two are probably two of the hottest names in GPS Rugby at the moment ( as U16 players ) with GT representing QLD 2 off the bench down at Nationals
As we approach the half way mark to the season over the course of the next week - jump in with a look back to now , or , jump in with your tips for how you see the rest of the season unfolding
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
King
Isn't it more "like for like" when comparing ages etc to define players not when or what part of the year they are born in , but rather , as to whether they are genuinely
U16 ( rookie Opens players )
U17 ( regular Opens players )
U18 ( veteran Opens players )
And in Nudgee's case - notwithstanding recent injuries etc - their preferred starting 15 would have only had 2 x U16 players - and yes I understand 1 or 2 more may have come into the mix now because of injury
I guess what I am suggesting is that their U16 Team would seem to be pretty much in tact bar maybe 2 players ??
Isn't it more "like for like" when comparing ages etc to define players not when or what part of the year they are born in , but rather , as to whether they are genuinely
U16 ( rookie Opens players )
U17 ( regular Opens players )
U18 ( veteran Opens players )
And in Nudgee's case - notwithstanding recent injuries etc - their preferred starting 15 would have only had 2 x U16 players - and yes I understand 1 or 2 more may have come into the mix now because of injury
I guess what I am suggesting is that their U16 Team would seem to be pretty much in tact bar maybe 2 players ??
The Nomad
Bob Davidson (42)
GO ,
Don't think many games this year are sure things, other than TSS playing anyone but NC at Ross.
Think spots 3 through to 7 could still go anyway.
Agree with you that TGS will be a tough test for GT at home on the range and you could be right on the money with what spot they are playing off for in that game.
Likewise think both TGS and Churchie will test BBC , just as BGS did, particularly if you have them straight after NC or TSS. Bit hard to pick BBC's form with two games played , GT were well below par in round 1 and sounds like BBC were in round 2 . Still a lot of footy left in the season, we will see both individual and team form ebb and flow, guess it's all about how you handle the lows. Three way shared premiership a long way off.
Good luck to all!
Don't think many games this year are sure things, other than TSS playing anyone but NC at Ross.
Think spots 3 through to 7 could still go anyway.
Agree with you that TGS will be a tough test for GT at home on the range and you could be right on the money with what spot they are playing off for in that game.
Likewise think both TGS and Churchie will test BBC , just as BGS did, particularly if you have them straight after NC or TSS. Bit hard to pick BBC's form with two games played , GT were well below par in round 1 and sounds like BBC were in round 2 . Still a lot of footy left in the season, we will see both individual and team form ebb and flow, guess it's all about how you handle the lows. Three way shared premiership a long way off.
Good luck to all!
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
We’re close in our views Nomad - more than what you may know or care to admit
4 to 6 is the crapshoot with TGS ( IMO ) holding advantage
Will now better next week at the true midpoint of the season but I just don’t see BBC losing to TGS at home
Personally I don’t think GT were out of form in Rd 1 - that was pretty much the best shot and they didn’t get it done . Granted , you missed Mulcahy but would he really have made a difference ?? ( no disrespect ) - I doubt it
We’ve already established Condon’s no try that directly led to a 14 point swing in GT’s favour that never would have occurred if the correct decision was made ( given that GT went over again on the ensuing kick off )
20-24 point difference on the adjustment is about right which was probably the true form margin in what occurred between NC and GT
BBC haven’t earned the right yet to be equal or beyond NC and TSS but it’s probably fair to say they’ve earned the right to seperate themselves from the rest of the field below TSS and NC
4 to 6 is the crapshoot with TGS ( IMO ) holding advantage
Will now better next week at the true midpoint of the season but I just don’t see BBC losing to TGS at home
Personally I don’t think GT were out of form in Rd 1 - that was pretty much the best shot and they didn’t get it done . Granted , you missed Mulcahy but would he really have made a difference ?? ( no disrespect ) - I doubt it
We’ve already established Condon’s no try that directly led to a 14 point swing in GT’s favour that never would have occurred if the correct decision was made ( given that GT went over again on the ensuing kick off )
20-24 point difference on the adjustment is about right which was probably the true form margin in what occurred between NC and GT
BBC haven’t earned the right yet to be equal or beyond NC and TSS but it’s probably fair to say they’ve earned the right to seperate themselves from the rest of the field below TSS and NC
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
I might add Nomad .....Churchie were not really a test for BBC in the final trial before Rd 1 kicked off despite both teams being without their Open State Reps and U16 SOG reps . Add them both back and the gulf widens . By a bit
Funnily enough the only team that BBC struggled with and didn't put in a great showing with during the preseason was BSHS at Wests on Friday Night in the last game of Term 2 .
Funnily enough the only team that BBC struggled with and didn't put in a great showing with during the preseason was BSHS at Wests on Friday Night in the last game of Term 2 .
The torpedo
Peter Fenwicke (45)
On all the neck injuries i have heard that all the GPS principals are meeting soon to discuss why they could be happening
Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Well the Nudgee one from what I read was just a freak accident. No relation to the other ones. Were the other 3 all scrums???
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Just one I believe- Tweedy.
Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Oh right. My concern is, since a review has been announced, people will expect an outcome. And i can't see any outcome which would reduce the risk apart from banning contact or scrums (the latter of which would only have prevented one injury by Reg's comment above).
I'm all for making the sport safer - but given the apparent lack of trend in incidents, how can anything be done? I saw comments on online news sites talking about weight limits - but has that been a factor in any of the incidents?
I hope cool heads assess this. The sport is no more dangerous than it was 5 years ago - there has just been a freak collection of horrible incidents.
I'm all for making the sport safer - but given the apparent lack of trend in incidents, how can anything be done? I saw comments on online news sites talking about weight limits - but has that been a factor in any of the incidents?
I hope cool heads assess this. The sport is no more dangerous than it was 5 years ago - there has just been a freak collection of horrible incidents.
DarkSide
Sydney Middleton (9)
The GT boys have been going on since NC about the forward pass for the first of Nudgee’s quick second half tries, plus a supposed no arms tackle on the 9. So I’d you’re going to start clutching at straws and inventing what ifs, then you have to clutch all of them.
DarkSide
Sydney Middleton (9)
I don’t have access to the courier mail
https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...3/news-story/4282ef53f44da33a474eb01593ba0b21
What’s the dodgy yellow card video rederred to here?
https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...3/news-story/4282ef53f44da33a474eb01593ba0b21
What’s the dodgy yellow card video rederred to here?
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
Zac Crothers got sent off for a dangerous tackle in the Churchie /Grammar game that wasn't him so the story goes and it commended him for taking it on the chin and not carrying on , and , the Churchie boys for keeping their composure with 1 man down .
Also an interesting feature on the Dennis Waights (Senior and Junior ) Senior used to train Clive Lloyd's West Indian team through the late 70's and he comments on the importance of young Rugby players staying flexible and skilled and not too bulked where flexibility and skill suffer
Also an interesting feature on the Dennis Waights (Senior and Junior ) Senior used to train Clive Lloyd's West Indian team through the late 70's and he comments on the importance of young Rugby players staying flexible and skilled and not too bulked where flexibility and skill suffer
Mr Tank
Herbert Moran (7)
The Nomad
Bob Davidson (42)
Probably could all write a book on the “what if’s “ and “could of’s / should of’s “ of rugby. I could bang out a few pages on the last two years NC v GT games alone , but that wouldn’t change the outcome , or do much for my dignity, so will refrain.
GO , think we will have to agree to disagree on round 1 , but think if you saw the match stats breakdown from a GT perspective you would agree that calling the GT performance sub par is not an overstatement. Fortunately there has been improvement across the park and the inclusion of Mulcahy has added some much needed impact. As a result, the forward pack that ran out last week is better balanced and has more impact than at the start of the season. Just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions........... like arseholes we all have one and just because you think you have a good one doesn’t mean someone else won’t find it a bit smelly.
Also think comparing winning margins has limitations on sorting out who’s who in the zoo.
For example : both BBC and TGS had strong wins over Downlands, IGS had a narrow win over BGS and TGS (at home ) beat IGS with a conversation on FT . Should mean tight games between BBC, TGS & IGS.
Sadly for BBC , Churchie beat BGS a little more comfortably than BBC did , so maybe a loss there .
On the bright side , GT beat BSHS by a similar margin to both NC and TSS, so BBC should comfortably account for both of those teams .
Except of course that the results of NC v Gt & IGS plus the TSS v TGS & Churchie games completely contradict everything already mentioned.
Get my point ?
They are Schoolboys, shit happens . Some teams will improve throughout the season, some won’t. Some will have more than their fair share of WTF moments, while others will cruise through. Cannot be too critical of consistency, sadly it’s never been a strong point of Australian rugby.
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GO , think we will have to agree to disagree on round 1 , but think if you saw the match stats breakdown from a GT perspective you would agree that calling the GT performance sub par is not an overstatement. Fortunately there has been improvement across the park and the inclusion of Mulcahy has added some much needed impact. As a result, the forward pack that ran out last week is better balanced and has more impact than at the start of the season. Just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions........... like arseholes we all have one and just because you think you have a good one doesn’t mean someone else won’t find it a bit smelly.
Also think comparing winning margins has limitations on sorting out who’s who in the zoo.
For example : both BBC and TGS had strong wins over Downlands, IGS had a narrow win over BGS and TGS (at home ) beat IGS with a conversation on FT . Should mean tight games between BBC, TGS & IGS.
Sadly for BBC , Churchie beat BGS a little more comfortably than BBC did , so maybe a loss there .
On the bright side , GT beat BSHS by a similar margin to both NC and TSS, so BBC should comfortably account for both of those teams .
Except of course that the results of NC v Gt & IGS plus the TSS v TGS & Churchie games completely contradict everything already mentioned.
Get my point ?
They are Schoolboys, shit happens . Some teams will improve throughout the season, some won’t. Some will have more than their fair share of WTF moments, while others will cruise through. Cannot be too critical of consistency, sadly it’s never been a strong point of Australian rugby.
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