Pat McCabe

[Groucho]

An introvert isnt a person who is 'inward looking', that term can be somewhat misleading and insinuate that a introvert is someone who cares more about himself then his surrounds, which couldn't be further from the case.

An introvert is a person who doesn't speak unless something needs to be said, he would rather sit back and listen to other peoples opinions before pressing his own, a person who would rather consider there options in depth before speaking, a person who revels in quiet time because it gives them time to think at depth.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/30/introverts-good-leaders-leadership-managing-personality.html

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Regardless of what Forbes magazine says, the terms introvert and extrovert originated with Karl Jung. According to Jung, an introvert is a person whose interest is directed inward toward his own feelings and thoughts. An extrovert is a person whose attention is directed toward the outside world. Jung differentiated four functions: thinking, feeling, sensation, and intuition.

The pop psychology interpretation of extroversion misinterprets Jung by focusing on behaviour, and especially on behaviors such as aggression and display. In the Jungian system, any person who to wishes to impose themselves upon their environment is by definition an extrovert.

It doesn't matter if they choose to do so by their clothing, their way of talking, or simply by their leadership: the key differentiator is that they are outwardly focused.

 

[disco]

McCabe had a good game tonight against the Springboks but if I have a problem with his game is that he always looks for the inside ball when the space is on the outside.

He needs to drop that habit if he is going to be a success outside Quade Cooper.

 

[lily]

Professor Gately I'm sorry for being asleep.
Did I just wake up or am I having flashbacks to Uni and my Psychology major?
I thought this thread was on Pat McCabe.
Sorry for the Bullet points but have just read the Australian and Mark Ella's article.
Does he not realise that a flyhalf can go across field in some circumstances. Larkham wasn't always direct but when he went lateral his runners would hit holes.
The criticism of Gits by some is ridiculous. Tonight instead of having an experienced hand in attack we had a back to the 1980's league with grubber and chip kicks.
Dont get me wrong as there is no place for him at flyhalf or probably even at 12 but he at least gives you a whole lot of Mongrel of the bench.

 

[Groucho]

McCabe did good!

 

[Groucho]

Sorry for the Bullet points but have just read the Australian and Mark Ella's article. Does he not realise that a flyhalf can go across field in some circumstances. Larkham wasn't always direct but when he went lateral his runners would hit holes.

Mark Ella 'realises' a bit about flyhalf play. He arguably invented the modern version of it.

 

[Fredfreduels]

Are the stats up?

 

[lily]

Groucho I am 37 not 12 so I do understand the Ella's influence on Australian and world rugby. His play was very direct but under alot different circumstances to the modern day athletes.

 

[Groucho]

Groucho I am 37 not 12 so I do understand the Ella's influence on Australian and world rugby. His play was very direct but under alot different circumstances to the modern day athletes.

Furry nuff lily. That was a cheap shot by me.

I agree. The game moves on and even the most important athletes can get stuck in their own time.

 

[TOCC]

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Regardless of what Forbes magazine says, the terms introvert and extrovert originated with Karl Jung. According to Jung, an introvert is a person whose interest is directed inward toward his own feelings and thoughts. An extrovert is a person whose attention is directed toward the outside world. Jung differentiated four functions: thinking, feeling, sensation, and intuition.

The pop psychology interpretation of extroversion misinterprets Jung by focusing on behaviour, and especially on behaviors such as aggression and display. In the Jungian system, any person who to wishes to impose themselves upon their environment is by definition an extrovert.

It doesn't matter if they choose to do so by their clothing, their way of talking, or simply by their leadership: the key differentiator is that they are outwardly focused.

popular philosophy today actually lends to the belief that people are a mix of extroversion and introversion, this differs entirely from Jungs original theories.....

So believe what you like, i however work in a line of work with a significant number of introverted people, and trust me there is no shortage of aggressive displays, they are just less vocal about it. The difference between the introverted ones and the extroverted ones, is a introverted person values reward higher then punishment, and a introverted person rates punishment higher then reward. Interpret that how you will, but it means little in a persons thirst for achieving a set goal.

I fail to see how a world inundated with introverted people in significant hierarchical positions can function if they are purely concerned about there own feelings and thoughts.......

 

[Newter]

Personally, I think Deans believes that Aus needs to have mid-field runners who can straighten the line, hold the defense and bang it up if his outside backs are to have the space in which to operate. QC (Quade Cooper) can find those midfield runner with the correct pass if they run the right lines and angles. Off slower ball, he needs strong ball carriers across the park who can set a target for his forwards to build phase play and get across the gain line. It's only when the Wallabies get a forward role on and generate quick ball, that they can be considered the best in the game.

Very impressed with McCabe's direct style so far. It reminds me of the excellent value Nathan Grey used to give in this position, coincidentally a time when Lote Tuqiri was scoring a try a game for the Waratahs. The #12 only holds defenders in when he's a genuine threat, and McCabe has been absolutely monstering that tackle line lately.

 

[Groucho]

popular philosophy today actually lends to the belief that people are a mix of extroversion and introversion, this differs entirely from Jungs original theories.....

So believe what you like, i however work in a line of work with a significant number of introverted people, and trust me there is no shortage of aggressive displays, they are just less vocal about it. The difference between the introverted ones and the extroverted ones, is a introverted person values reward higher then punishment, and a introverted person rates punishment higher then reward. Interpret that how you will, but it means little in a persons thirst for achieving a set goal.

I fail to see how a world inundated with introverted people in significant hierarchical positions can function if they are purely concerned about there own feelings and thoughts.......

Well, that wasn't what I said, but this isn't a good forum for psychological theory.

 

[bryce]

i wonder what opinion Rocky Elsom, the philosopher, that 'da Vinci in studs' would have in the above discussion?

 

[dobduff11]

McCabe is a bosher. He runs straight and hard, but he limits your outside backs. Does he even offload?

How is this for some archive searching, McCabe throwing a Sonny Bill offload back in 04.

Points for whoever can name the other two professional players in this photo.

 

[MrTimms]

Points for whoever can name the other two professional players in this photo.

Well, 9 QLD looks like Sanchez.

Is the other Sekope Kepu? The E in Seiser is making it a little obscured.

 

[#1 Tah]

I must say, he looked a lot like Tom Carter out there last night.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[wamberal]

Mark Ella 'realises' a bit about flyhalf play. He arguably invented the modern version of it.

Actually, Cyril Towers invented it - Mark Ella was good enough to realise Cyril's concept superbly.

 

[Epi]

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Regardless of what Forbes magazine says, the terms introvert and extrovert originated with Karl Jung. According to Jung, an introvert is a person whose interest is directed inward toward his own feelings and thoughts. An extrovert is a person whose attention is directed toward the outside world. Jung differentiated four functions: thinking, feeling, sensation, and intuition.

The pop psychology interpretation of extroversion misinterprets Jung by focusing on behaviour, and especially on behaviors such as aggression and display. In the Jungian system, any person who to wishes to impose themselves upon their environment is by definition an extrovert.

It doesn't matter if they choose to do so by their clothing, their way of talking, or simply by their leadership: the key differentiator is that they are outwardly focused.

You see you just don't get that in a NRL forum...

 

[Reddy!]

Yo I liked McCabe. There was a moment in the game when Quade was stepping around would be tackles but not really making much ground, then he passed it off to a barnstorming McCabe who ran straight ahead and made 10 or so valuable metres getting out of the Wallabies 22. He also made some good tackles.

McCabe will do for now, but just imagine having a fit fucking Rob Horne there at 12! It would certainly add a bit more pace to that centre combination as well as all the other qualities that McCabe has.

 

[Fowi]

Was very good last night, was especially impressed with his defence, him and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) were rock solid in the middle and if they can continue like they did last night then, hopefully that will continue to give Cooper, Beale and Genia the space they need to show off their flare. I think if Pat and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) continue like this then they could be the centre combination for the word cup and beyond.

 

[dobduff11]

One right Timmsy, 9 is Will Genia

Have a closer look at the guy with the scrum cap,

As much as I want to see JOC (James O'Connor) at 12 for the wallabies McCabe played very well yesterday and he should get a few more caps if he plays like that. Made a few breaks as well so he's more effective than Gits was last year in the line breaking department.