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Paddy O'Brien apologises just not to Australia

Should Paddy O'Brien step down?

  • Yes and he can take Kaplan with him

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  • No, he's doing a good job

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  • Warn him

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Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Lindommer said:
Haven't slept a wink all week thinking about this issue. Let's have a good look at the entrails of this incident. Here's a sequence of events:

  • Italy play NZ in Milan, with an Australian referee, Stuart Dickinson
  • NZ lead by 14 late in the game when Italy get a number of scrums 5m from NZ's goal-line
  • there are 8 scrum resets, some say NZ at fault, others say Italy
  • Graham Henry (NZ coach) furious about the fact NZ are penalised for improper scrum practice, he considers Italy to be at fault
  • NZ player, Tialata tweets Graham Henry (NZ coach) will meet with Paddy O'Brien (a NZer), the iRB referees' manager, when NZ arrive in London
  • NZ coach meets with iRB referees' manager (a NZer) in front of a NZ journalist, Marc Hinton
  • In an unprecedented action Paddy O'Brien (a NZer), the iRB referees' manager, publicly criticises the Australian referee's performance with Graham Henry (the NZ coach) in front of Marc Hinton, a NZ journalist, advising him Dickinson was wrong in his rulings over the final scrums and will be given some training to remedy those incorrect rulings
  • NZ journalist reports meeting on NZ website, Stuff
  • NZ rugby supporters go ballistic

I've looked at this incident back-to-front and upside-down (and even inside-out) for a common thread and buggered if I can find one. I must confess I'm at a complete loss as to what we should now do.

Register at TSF under a new name, stick up what you posted here and see if you can set a record for minimum life on that board. :)
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Biffo said:
Register at TSF under a new name, stick up what you posted here and see if you can set a record for minimum life on that board. :)
Oom Biff sometimes I wish I can go back there but they'll smell me like a rotton rat! No matter the name I would try.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
Biffo said:
Register at TSF under a new name, stick up what you posted here and see if you can set a record for minimum life on that board. :)

Went in through the front door as L, added the bit about Paddy apologising to Dickinson. Certainly killed comment on THAT thread.

I'm tempted to go back and add Nick's scrum-by-scrum observations re the guilty parties.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Wasted effort Lindo - over here its a fair-to-middling analysis. Over there its utterly wrong. Except if you quoted it like this:

NTA said:
the ... scrums aren't really an issue with Tialata
...
Scrum 1 - ... No penalty try because they didn't look like they were going to score.
Scrum 2 - ... That one was a bit of a mess ... the Italians aren't going anywhere.

8)
 

Scorz

Syd Malcolm (24)
Lindommer said:
Biffo said:
Register at TSF under a new name, stick up what you posted here and see if you can set a record for minimum life on that board. :)

Went in through the front door as L, added the bit about Paddy apologising to Dickinson. Certainly killed comment on THAT thread.

I'm tempted to go back and add Nick's scrum-by-scrum observations re the guilty parties.
Ask nicely.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
I'd like to read any comments Nick Mallet may have to say on the situation. Paddy O'Brien is a twat and always has been even when he had the whistle.

He tries to make out that he's not biased by saying that Wayne Barnes was obstructed on the forward pass by the french but really he was gutted but knew there was nothing he could do to fix the fuck up.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Lindommer said:
Haven't slept a wink all week thinking about this issue. Let's have a good look at the entrails of this incident. Here's a sequence of events:

  • Italy play NZ in Milan, with an Australian referee, Stuart Dickinson
  • NZ lead by 14 late in the game when Italy get a number of scrums 5m from NZ's goal-line
  • there are 8 scrum resets, some say NZ at fault, others say Italy
  • Graham Henry (NZ coach) furious about the fact NZ are penalised for improper scrum practice, he considers Italy to be at fault
  • NZ player, Tialata tweets Graham Henry (NZ coach) will meet with Paddy O'Brien (a NZer), the iRB referees' manager, when NZ arrive in London
  • NZ coach meets with iRB referees' manager (a NZer) in front of a NZ journalist, Marc Hinton
  • In an unprecedented action Paddy O'Brien (a NZer), the iRB referees' manager, publicly criticises the Australian referee's performance with Graham Henry (the NZ coach) in front of Marc Hinton, a NZ journalist, advising him Dickinson was wrong in his rulings over the final scrums and will be given some training to remedy those incorrect rulings
  • NZ journalist reports meeting on NZ website, Stuff
  • NZ rugby supporters go ballistic

I've looked at this incident back-to-front and upside-down (and even inside-out) for a common thread and buggered if I can find one. I must confess I'm at a complete loss as to what we should now do.

Stuff wasn't where it was first reported. It was just where you first picked it up.

I am surprised at the lack of response on TSF to your post.. actually, no I'm not. All kiwi's that i know and chat rugby with agree that Paddy's made a knob end of himself, the Italy scrummed destroyed us and it's time to move on.

But please, by all means keep convincing yourself that this is an entire NZ run beat up and conspiracy. I do find it ironic how suddenly all Aussies are scrum experts though, given that your scrum has been going backwards for years and only started going forwards once you got a kiwi coach....
:)
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Can't let that one go, MJ. Foley started the turn around, and you would assume that Jim Willliams finished it.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Scarfman said:
Can't let that one go, MJ. Foley started the turn around, and you would assume that Jim Willliams finished it.

Yes and I give Pato credit for the final polish.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Biffo said:
MajorlyRagerly said:
Stuff wasn't where it was first reported. It was just where you first picked it up.

I am surprised at the lack of response on TSF to your post.. actually, no I'm not. All kiwi's that i know and chat rugby with agree that Paddy's made a knob end of himself, the Italy scrummed destroyed us and it's time to move on.

But please, by all means keep convincing yourself that this is an entire NZ run beat up and conspiracy. I do find it ironic how suddenly all Aussies are scrum experts though, given that your scrum has been going backwards for years and only started going forwards once you got a kiwi coach.... :)

Errr, the irony is all in your views. :lmao:

You write first that all your mates and you agree ..... .... . Then you imply that only kiwis and Robbie D know about scrumming. Given the whacking that your scrum has been taking that is irony defined.

Aye, good spot!

Must say though it has been bloody lovely today to see nobody talking about ref's after yesterdays matches. Very refreshing.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
MajorlyRagerly said:
Must say though it has been bloody lovely today to see nobody talking about ref's after yesterdays matches. Very refreshing.

Indeed it is. Pity, though, that the diversion from officiating has been the horrible rugby played.
 

Scorz

Syd Malcolm (24)
"You and your mates" eh Biffo... ::)

[rant]Look, I like coming here, but one thing that gets on my scrotum fluff is when you blokes start saying "On the Fern" as if everyone there ever agrees on anything. I've been there for ages - there has to my knowledge been three things that everyone agreed on: SCW is a cockfag, BOD is a whinging twat, and Matt Dunning is a pisstake.

I realise some of you are bitter about that place, and I really hope it's more that no-one wants to point a finger trans-forum, but ffs the moment you lump the Fern in as a whole is the moment you lose the plot.

[/rant]
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Scorz said:
Biffo said:
Scorz said:
"You and your mates" eh Biffo... ::)

[rant]Look, I like coming here, but one thing that gets on my scrotum fluff is when you blokes start saying "On the Fern" as if everyone there ever agrees on anything. I've been there for ages - there has to my knowledge been three things that everyone agreed on: SCW is a cockfag, BOD is a whinging twat, and Matt Dunning is a pisstake.

I realise some of you are bitter about that place, and I really hope it's more that no-one wants to point a finger trans-forum, but ffs the moment you lump the Fern in as a whole is the moment you lose the plot. [/rant]

Nice rant. Pity you had to invent some "facts" for a target. Just where did I "lump the Fern in as a whole".

If you care to look, the ".. and my mates" was taken from a post (just above mine) by a kiwi.

UnZidders are world class in lumping.

That's my lumping challenge ;)
Well in that case I apologise. Sorry, Biffo. There have been a few instances where that does occur but the example I gave which kicked me into rant mode is a fail. :baxter:

No problem, Mate. I need a little banter to recover from the Saturday Night Massacreeee.

BTW, thanks for starting the Fern's thread on Scotland v TFKW last night.
 
C

chief

Guest
What pisses me off is that the IRB is waiting for the heat to die down so O'Brien won't have to stand down. Absolutely pathetic. Other countries including NZ journalists are all calling for O'Brien's resignation. How hard its going to be for Stu to get on top.

Paddy needs to GTFO
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Chiefy one question, if it has been Kaplan iso DickHeadSon would your reaction about Paddy the same?

Thats the thing that hurt me from the choise A) Paddy must go and Kaplan too.

Look like some people here dont want to get on the system and rather take it on the persons.
 

Groucho

Greg Davis (50)
MajorlyRagerly said:
I do find it ironic how suddenly all Aussies are scrum experts though, given that your scrum has been going backwards for years and only started going forwards once you got a kiwi coach....
:)

I find it ironic how any supporters think that their team's performances at the scrum somehow gives them any scrum knowledge, and that includes Kiwis. We had years of other countries' fans sternly lecturing us on front row play, when they've never been in a scrum in their lives. :lmao:
 
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