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NSW AAGPS 2024

rugbyAU

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Colin Windon (37)
Mungo1866 said:
You’d have to question the accuracy of the statement given the HSC has only existed since 1967 and had multiple incarnations in that period- that‘s only 57years.
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Still the point that Joeys, Riverview, Scots and New is that their academic performance is dreadful for a top $30K plus a year private school
 
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Squidlips said:
It would be a pity if the New boys don't get up there to support their opens. If the weather is as foul as it looks like it's going to be, they will struggle to keep the 16s around, seeing as they're playing first thing in the morning.
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It’ll be interesting to see how newington go in 16as missing their three most dominant forwards in Isaiah sheck Iliyaz Villiamu and Lucas Broderick,
 
Mungo1866

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Frank Nicholson (4)
thesolicitor said:
Nah just you can’t find any record of those schools beating
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rugbyAU said:
Still the point that Joeys, Riverview, Scot’s and New is that their academic performance is dreadful for a top $30K plus a year private school
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Is it really? They are still generally within the top 100 schools in the state so ahead of over 400 schools even on that flawed metric. School should be about more than just academic or sport measures at the top level
All that is based on is the number of band 6 results a school gets. it’s a long time since all results were published.
Unfortunately we don’t ever see any indication of where a school takes a kid, how they have improved. None of those 4 are selective academically - 2 at least have significant boarding populations - some from remote communities who didn’t perhaps have the advantage the same as Grammar, Aloysius or others.
 
wisemaan

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Any predictions for the ‘Spaghetti Cup’ tomorrow I know the Shore ‘Dog Sqaud’ are coming up against a fierce TAS 2nd XV which will be tough for the Shore men but I’m sure there will be some good hard ‘shots on’ footy. Does anyone know who the ‘nico 9ths’ from lane cove or the ‘Smirnoff 7ths’ out of Paramatta are playing would love to hear some predictions!!!

Yours in sporting reason, A sane observer

-wisemaan
 
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Allen Oxlade (6)
Mungo1866 said:
Is it really? They are still generally within the top 100 schools in the state so ahead of over 400 schools even on that flawed metric. School should be about more than just academic or sport measures at the top level
All that is based on is the number of band 6 results a school gets. it’s a long time since all results were published.
Unfortunately we don’t ever see any indication of where a school takes a kid, how they have improved. None of those 4 are selective academically - 2 at least have significant boarding populations - some from remote communities who didn’t perhaps have the advantage the same as Grammar, Aloysius or others.
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It’s an interesting discussion. Some on this forum claim that a bad a schoolboy rugby team is ‘embarrassing’ others say that below average results are. Priorities and decisions, good luck to all the lads on the weekend.
 
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
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rugbyAU said:
Still the point that Joeys, Riverview, Scot’s and New is that their academic performance is dreadful for a top $30K plus a year private school
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I’d wager good money that all these schools beat Shore pound for pound in the HSC. If you take a bunch of privileged kids from Mosman (Shore) they should beat kids from the very diverse backgrounds that kids at schools like Joeys come from. On the other hand, if you measure how the boys improve vs expectations, there is no contest. Also, Joeys has won the debating 2 years in a row and had a perfect ATAR result last year. . Also, this is a rugby forum.
 
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Stan Wickham (3)
wisemaan said:
Any predictions for the ‘Spaghetti Cup’ tomorrow I know the Shore ‘Dog Sqaud’ are coming up against a fierce TAS 2nd XV which will be tough for the Shore men but I’m sure there will be some good hard ‘shots on’ footy. Does anyone know who the ‘nico 9ths’ from lane cove or the ‘Smirnoff 7ths’ out of Paramatta are playing would love to hear some predictions!!!

Yours in sporting reason, A sane observer

-wisemaan
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I believe the Nic 9ths are up against Sydney Boys this weekend.
 
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The Ghost of Raelene

Steve Williams (59)
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Colin Windon (37)
Mungo1866 said:
Is it really? They are still generally within the top 100 schools in the state so ahead of over 400 schools even on that flawed metric. School should be about more than just academic or sport measures at the top level
All that is based on is the number of band 6 results a school gets. it’s a long time since all results were published.
Unfortunately we don’t ever see any indication of where a school takes a kid, how they have improved. None of those 4 are selective academically - 2 at least have significant boarding populations - some from remote communities who didn’t perhaps have the advantage the same as Grammar, Aloysius or others.
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Being in the top 100 out of 400+ isn't as impressive for those schools because they are very privileged, wealthy, have lots of resources, rich parents etc. - you can't expect them to perform too the standard of those selective schools but they underperform no question when you have view coming 70th. Shore and Kings coming 24 and 26 last year are good examples of schools that should be doing well and get good results.

I agree with the rest of your points though the way they do the rankings is flawed yet still on other metrics like median ATAR, number of high achievers, % of kids over 85, 90, 95 etc. they underperform.

I disagree with the premise of selective schools and this goes to your point that schools should be more than just academic measures.

Also correct to point out that there are a lot of boarders at these schools which is not the case at the top schools which would pull their results down but still at Shore nearly half of the boarders get over 90 which its basically on par with the day boys.
 
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Stan Wickham (3)
wisemaan said:
Any predictions for the ‘Spaghetti Cup’ tomorrow I know the Shore ‘Dog Sqaud’ are coming up against a fierce TAS 2nd XV which will be tough for the Shore men but I’m sure there will be some good hard ‘shots on’ footy. Does anyone know who the ‘nico 9ths’ from lane cove or the ‘Smirnoff 7ths’ out of Paramatta are playing would love to hear some predictions!!!

Yours in sporting reason, A sane observer

-wisemaan
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Can confirm TKS 'Smirnoff 7ths' are up against SJC 7ths.
 
The Chairman

The Chairman

Cyril Towers (30)
Shore 3rd XV

1. Mason-Jones
2. Yates
3. Sheridan
4. Hall
5. Frape
6. Lotz
7. Sherington
8. Cambridge
9. Beggs
10. Horwood
11. Shadforth
12. Kingal-Paia
13. d’Almeida
14. Stacker
15. Ritchie

Lots of changes in this squad.
 
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Peter Burge (5)
SJC teams v Kings

1st XV
1. Nicolaj Knevitt
2.Charlie Ghattas
3.Chris Quinn
4.Mackinley Dooley
5.Arthur Greer
6.Johannes Logan
7.Lucas Arnautovic
8.Justice Taumoepeau
9.Darcy Brown
10.Jonty Fowler
11.Ben Sleeman
12.Matthew Gough
13.Ethan Tombs
14.Kynan Hart
15.Max Palmasani

2nd XV
1.Lachlan Foster
2.Kaleb Ward
3.Alex Negline
4.Henry Seigmeier
5.Cooper Green
6.Liam Hill
7.Paddy Cant
8.Liam Massey
9.Harry Beckett
10.Bede Fogarty
11.Monty Schmude
12.James de Szoeke
13.Lochie Wilson
14.Finn Boyd
15.Henry Troy
 
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