Melbourne Rebels 2024

[LeCheese]

Also possible that it's the marketing team signing off - wouldn't be unexpected if their contracts (and obligations to sponsors) ran through til 1wk post Super final

 

[SouthernX]

That’s probably what’s going on.

I think Rugby Victoria should retain the account and post stuff related to rugby in Victoria… I don’t think RA would mind that tbh.

 

[Strewthcobber]

RA re-employed 80% of the Rebels staff on short term contracts to the end of June as well as the players, after the Rebels administrator made them all redundant in mid-Feb

 

[Rebel man]

The club shuts on June 30 officially that’s what the staff were saying on the flight home. I doubt there would be any OT or weekend work this week so it will be the final goodbye.

That will be independent from what the consortium chooses to do.

 

[swingpass]

i was at a lunch last Saturday with some of the Rebels organisation, the writs were being issued last Monday, RA has time to respond.

 

[Rebel man]

Good. I am glad they are taking action, while it maybe too late to save the club if the court finds in their favour then surely it spells the end for those in charge of RA.

 

[Sully]

I hope they lose, RA get awarded court costs and they get done for trading while insolvent.

 

[Rebel man]

When has RA won? Lost round one v the Rebels and lost v Izzy.

 

[Adam84]

Don’t be fooled. At this point this isn’t the Rebels vs RA..

Ita a group of rich individuals who governed the organisation poorly and are now only representing and looking out for their own self interest vs RA

 

[LeCheese]

No, but Adam, you see, this is all about the fight for the best interests of rugby in Victoria - the greater good, if you will - and has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with the $8m in Penalty Notices

 

[Strewthcobber]

When has RA won? Lost round one v the Rebels and lost v Izzy.

Force took them to court last time

 

[LearningCurve]

Rebels website main banner is 'Be a Rebel' - promoting membership! I would have thought they could have changed that, it's not as if the site hasn't been updated with latest news of Wallaby selections etc.

 

[Sully]

When has RA won? Lost round one v the Rebels and lost v Izzy.

Rebel lost every year since 2017 and kept it a secret, but somehow that's RA's fault.

 

[swingpass]

Sully, i believe one of the arguments is that RA DID know (about the books) and gave assurances about the financial support coming (to all the franchises), that never arrived. this legal action is, yes, in part saving the directors $, but also about a fundamental change/shake up at RA board level and governance of the game in Australia - well according some i spoke too anyway.

 

[LeCheese]

Aren't the same people pushing the story that RA knew about the level of debt and insolvent trading the same ones suggesting that RA always wanted to chop the Rebels and did so at the earliest opportunity? That doesn't quite add up...

I don't doubt that RA probably suggested to clubs that there were hopefully greener pastures ahead following the COVID reductions and a hopeful PE deal, but I'd say it was the Rebels management who deemed it to be their lifeline. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[1888]

Should we not just lock this thread now? Rebels have joined the mythical Defunct Clubs/Franchises Society. Further gaslighting of us supporters (who our still grieving the loss of our team) in here is not necessary.

Any further discussion re: legal action and whatever else can surely be had in the Australian Rugby/RA thread.

 

[Tomikin]

Lol gaslighting... How bout we leave all the bullshit for this thread. I only venture here briefly when I want to hear what's the latest.

 

[Wilson]

Sully, i believe one of the arguments is that RA DID know (about the books) and gave assurances about the financial support coming ( to all the franchises), that never arrived. this legal action is, yes, in part saving the directors $, but also about a fundamental change/shake up at RA board level and governance of the game in Australia - well according some i spoke too anyway.

I'm not sure any assurances about a PE deal injecting more finance into the game is any sort of legal argument to cover the directors from trading insolvent, certainly not for trading insolvent for multiple years.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Seperate legal issues though.

The administrator facilitates the Rebels taking RA to court.

ASIC take the Rebels directors to court

 

[stoff]

Depends on what RA told them. If RA had represented they would guarantee their debts that is a different scenario. Is it a coincidence it all came crashing down just after the PEP debt deal was announced? Remember the directors had pumped in close to $6m in the years leading up to the insolvency. It’s likely a combination of that and Paul Docherty’s issues.

Remember we are talking about the same RA who didn’t sign a contract for the pre RWC match with France and blew millions over budget at the World Cup. The Rebels governance may have been terrible, but RA have consistently shown they are right up there.