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Colin Windon (37)
If you follow James Haskell on twitter, sometimes he'll tweet during games when he's on the pitch.
Is there nothing he can't do?
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If you follow James Haskell on twitter, sometimes he'll tweet during games when he's on the pitch.
Is there nothing he can't do?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
He announced a squad called the Wallabies.
I would say that there is a pretty even division of opinion on where Link stands and my impression is that it depends on whether the opinion holder believes the denials.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Either way, it doesn't look good in relation to his management style (not a sackable offence - but maybe he shouldn't be choosing all of the staff)
If a serious disciplinary matter was dealt with in June, between 2 key members of the group (and perhaps others) and the person in charge of discipline reports directly to Link, but either didn't think to mention it or dleiberatly witheld it - that's not how things should be run.
If he was told about it and has subsequently denied it, that is more serious.
Remember all of these people are in close personal contact on a daily basis for over 3 months.
Much will turn on what if any documents survive from the June affair.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
The Herald seems to be gunning for anyone and everyone in this saga except for the common denominator, KB (Kurtley Beale).
I suppose it is too much to expect some balanced reporting.
Do the crew at Fairfax know something that we don't yet, and is that knowledge is driving their agenda, or are they just still operating under "Grumbles Rules" despite the person moving on some time ago?
Was KB (Kurtley Beale) in Dublin last year, and if so, which group was he in?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
So there is no agenda from Fairfax about how that was handled insofar as it relates to KB (Kurtley Beale) but you get the feeling that there is a campaign within Fairfax to try and join the dots back to Dublin.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
You are assuming that the potential replacements could tackle better than the one dropped.
In nostalgic times, there was no smart phone to capture and broadcast every silly moment.
30 years ago it would have gone like this:
Scene: Players Motel Room at 3am after a big night on the grog:
Unknown player: hey Kurtley, Look at this magazine that my mate got from Fyshwick. Check out this picture of the fat chick with the bow and arrow.
KB (Kurtley Beale): Maaaate. She looks horrible. There is no way I'd want to do the deed with her.
Unknown: Yep. You're right. Me neither.
KB (Kurtley Beale): d'ja reckon that Di looks like that in the sack?
Unknown: Yuck. Eeeeeewwweeek. <nervous laugh> That's a horrible thought. I'm not going to be able to sleep now.
KB (Kurtley Beale): Yeah, She's a real rotter. Can't believe that we now have to fill in all these forms to account for our expenses we claim. Never had to do that when <previous manager> was in charge. I hate that stuff. Hey, get me that pen. <writes name of manager on the page>.
Unknown. That's funny. Yeah, Nah <insert player name> and <insert player name> are really cranky with her as well. I reckon I'll show them the picture of the archer as well.
Players eventually go to sleep and forget all about the discussion.
The Fyshwick magazine is found discarded in the hotel room by the Hotel Cleaners and handed to the Team Manager as lost property, along with several other items of clothing, and a couple of mouthguards. Team manager throws magazine away.
(actual language used may have been slightly more colourful than that above)
In the "good old days", crap was said at the bar and in private conversations. There was no permanent record kept of that conversation. No one felt the need to tell the world what a pr!ck someone else was, and if they did, there wasn't the means of economically doing so available to the individual. Sending out 300000 individually addressed and produced letters through the Australia Post was expensive, and time consuming.
The only ones with camera's were geeks and they waited until all 24 or 36 carefully posed photographs on the roll of film were taken before taking the roll to the chemist to get developed. You got the photos a week later. It cost money. If you were smart you got 2 for 1 photos, so you had a spare copy to give to 1 friend.
SammyP
Chris McKivat (8)
I've been reading all this for a while now and I just can't believe how many people, not necessarily on here but in other comments sections/forums, are still calling for people (assuming the ARU) to put more time into helping Beale sort out his off field issues. How much time has already been spent? Does each other player on an ARU contract get the same treatment?
I'm sorry but no matter how good a player he was a few years ago, no matter how well he played for the Tahs, he does not deserve any more special treatment. IMO he has already had more than his fair share of chances.
Yes, there are clearly some pretty major issues going on here with management as well, who knew what, when, how it was treated etc. But just because this whole Link knew/didn't know query has popped up doesn't mean that Beale did not do something completely stupid, disrespectful and outright rude to a member of management.
As for "back in the good old days" etc etc ... things like this may never have seen the light of day, but then can you imagine the past Wallabies stars, the likes of Smith, Larkham, Eales, Farr-Jones etc ever being this disrespectful?
I'm sorry but no matter how good a player he was a few years ago, no matter how well he played for the Tahs, he does not deserve any more special treatment. IMO he has already had more than his fair share of chances.
Yes, there are clearly some pretty major issues going on here with management as well, who knew what, when, how it was treated etc. But just because this whole Link knew/didn't know query has popped up doesn't mean that Beale did not do something completely stupid, disrespectful and outright rude to a member of management.
As for "back in the good old days" etc etc ... things like this may never have seen the light of day, but then can you imagine the past Wallabies stars, the likes of Smith, Larkham, Eales, Farr-Jones etc ever being this disrespectful?
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Now, that surely rings a bell. It is precisely the manner in which PM advisers and support staff keep their masters/mistresses in the dark so they can't be tarred with any responsibility brush when the shit hits the fan. What's to say something similar didn't happen here?
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Those guys, no, but I've always thought Campese was an arsehole, so I don't have much trouble imagining him doing something like this.
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Train Without a Station
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Haha exactly. Of course the players with the highest integrity you can't imagine doing something like this.
It's like saying I can't imagine Horwill, Moore or Mowen doing this sort of thing. Well duh.
It's like saying I can't imagine Horwill, Moore or Mowen doing this sort of thing. Well duh.
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spirit of cupertino
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The ARU has too much money if it can employ a friend of the coach as business manager. If the friend was qualified they'd know their job was to stay back at the office and work on the budgets not fly business class and keep starting back at our only aboriginal player. The ARU has put back the role of women in Rugby by 30 years.
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...es-team-business-manager-20141011-114mh9.html
So Patston has quit. Not overly surprised.
So Patston has quit. Not overly surprised.
S
spirit of cupertino
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I'd like to see the original job ad.
T
Train Without a Station
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Who says it was advertised?
Lorenzo
Colin Windon (37)
If Patston was well advised she would have negotiated a payout.
Generally I think the wallaby setup has not transitioned from the amateur game very well. If you think back to the guys from the late 90s, they all publicly gave the appearance of being mature men rather than overgrown teenaged boys. They all came up during a period where getting paid was an honour rather than a birthright. I'm sure unfortunate stuff occurred then also, and the social media thing wasn't around, but it looks like there was more respect for the opportunity to compete in gold.
I think spiros article of today (fairfax) is on the money. The players in this country form self-preserving cartels within squads and seem to end up with excessive influence.
There's often a focus on what players in a squad think about the current coach. Who gives a fuck about what the players think? Do people think that Bill Bellichick is bum chummy with all the players? By all accounts he's an utter fluffybunny.
Generally I think the wallaby setup has not transitioned from the amateur game very well. If you think back to the guys from the late 90s, they all publicly gave the appearance of being mature men rather than overgrown teenaged boys. They all came up during a period where getting paid was an honour rather than a birthright. I'm sure unfortunate stuff occurred then also, and the social media thing wasn't around, but it looks like there was more respect for the opportunity to compete in gold.
I think spiros article of today (fairfax) is on the money. The players in this country form self-preserving cartels within squads and seem to end up with excessive influence.
There's often a focus on what players in a squad think about the current coach. Who gives a fuck about what the players think? Do people think that Bill Bellichick is bum chummy with all the players? By all accounts he's an utter fluffybunny.
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John Hipwell (52)
Yet according to Spiro, Horwill is the perfect example of a 'me first' player and typifies all that is wrong with the current side. Worst piece of 'journalism' i have read since GG departed.
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