Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
And the Soap Dodgers thought the same about Portugal.
IRB Sevens 2012/13
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And the Soap Dodgers thought the same about Portugal.
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Phil Kearns (64)
Now we don't even have a live telecast of the final day?
What the hell is going on? Have Fox Sports lost their calendar, or something, their EPG shows a "live" event beginning at 3 am Monday.
One thing for sure, there is no sign anywhere on Foxtel of the Las Vegas Sevens at the moment. None.
What the hell is going on? Have Fox Sports lost their calendar, or something, their EPG shows a "live" event beginning at 3 am Monday.
One thing for sure, there is no sign anywhere on Foxtel of the Las Vegas Sevens at the moment. None.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
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Hindsight lol
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Phil Kearns (64)
Hugh,
The EPG says that the event is being telecast live at 3 am tomorrow morning, our time.
It is not being telecast live, if it was, it would be on now, wouldn't it? Or is time travel involved, or relativity, or quantum computing or something too difficult for me to understand?
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Spain managed their one win of the tournament against us. I think that says a lot more about us, than it does about Spain. Wake me up when Spain beats New Zealand, then we can talk about who is, or is not, a champion team.
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Spain beating Australia(and previously England) as well as the USA and Kenya toppling the traditional rugby giants is an obvious indicator that the gap between nations has closed(except for maybe new zealand). People need to remove the mindset that the outcomes of matches in 7's should reflect the traditional rankings of the XV's rugby, i love the fact that a team like England can win the New Zealand series but then lose to Portugal in the very next series, its a level of competitiveness and surprise that we rarely see at test level rugby.
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Phil Kearns (64)
I don't disagree that there are more surprises in the Sevens series than there are in the longer form of the game. When tournaments are played in totally different time zones on successive weekends, upsets are more likely than in a more structured environment.
Unless one is really into the minutiae of player availability, form, injuries, selection choices across all the competing teams, it is impossible to gauge form from tournament to tournament. Unlike Test match rugby, where form is more reliable.
We do not even know, for example, whether any of the squads take advantage of the subtitute player rule, which used to apply (and still does, AFAIK), whereby if a team has enough injuries, it can draft in one or more players from other teams.
So what appears to be a surprise, might not be, given all the circumstances; or to put it more correctly, if all the circumstances were known, some results are not all that surprising.
I still believe that we should be able to beat a minnow like Spain, any day of the week, at any version of the game. And when we lose, I am surprised - but not in a good way.
Unless one is really into the minutiae of player availability, form, injuries, selection choices across all the competing teams, it is impossible to gauge form from tournament to tournament. Unlike Test match rugby, where form is more reliable.
We do not even know, for example, whether any of the squads take advantage of the subtitute player rule, which used to apply (and still does, AFAIK), whereby if a team has enough injuries, it can draft in one or more players from other teams.
So what appears to be a surprise, might not be, given all the circumstances; or to put it more correctly, if all the circumstances were known, some results are not all that surprising.
I still believe that we should be able to beat a minnow like Spain, any day of the week, at any version of the game. And when we lose, I am surprised - but not in a good way.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
The Las Vegas tournament is being played over three days.
The Semi Finals and Finals are being played on Sunday morning Septica Time from 09:20 their time (which I think must be 3am Monday morning our time).
1st game will be Portugal v Uruguay, followed by Aust v Kenya @ 09:42 Septica time.
Last weeks runner up is competing in the Semi Final of the Shield Comp!
Last Weeks winner is in the Bowl Semi Final.
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So what you're saying is, it really shouldn't be a surprise because we can examine the variable of quantitive measurements pertaining but not limited to injuries, strength & conditioning, psychological effects, physical effects of desynchronosis(jet-lag), existing skill-sets, morale and coaching ability and ascertain a winner....
Thats impressive
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Phil Kearns (64)
It's not really impressive, it's all pretty random in practice. You obviously have a different opinion, but in the world that I live in fans of sport look for a certain consistency. Yes, the occasional upset is great, but there does need to be some kind of on-going narrative.
The HSBC Sevens circuit has been great for a few years. It will need to settle down a bit, get a bit of structure, sooner or later.
The fact that this leg seems to have been and gone with absolutely no interest here in Australia is significant, I would have thought. We used to see both days of the tournaments, now the best we can look forward to is the final day. Sometimes.
The HSBC Sevens circuit has been great for a few years. It will need to settle down a bit, get a bit of structure, sooner or later.
The fact that this leg seems to have been and gone with absolutely no interest here in Australia is significant, I would have thought. We used to see both days of the tournaments, now the best we can look forward to is the final day. Sometimes.
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Tony Shaw (54)
Not only that, but in sporting terms on Fox this part of the year before the start of Super Rugby and mungo, with only minor golf tournaments and little cricket, is a time you would have expected to get full coverage. They had ice hockey on a couple of nights ago, a sport with very few Australian followers (probably something to do with our lack of ice and snow). So why couldn't we see at least a delayed telecast of the first day? The ratings of previous tournaments must have been abysmal!
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Last weeks winners got belted by Les Frogges 7-40 in the Bowl Semi Final, meanwhile Fiji who couldn't make it out of the Pools last week, took the Darkness to extra time in the Cup Semi final.
Mistakes in 7's rugby can be very costly.
Mistakes in 7's rugby can be very costly.
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