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Continued decline in Sydney Junior Rugby

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Man on the hill

Alex Ross (28)
Sorry - not quite understanding the relevance of the competition manager needing to pull a few people into line for their pettiness. Then àgain could it be you're part of the problem being addressed?
 

mangled

Frank Nicholson (4)
So true man on the hill.... thought it was quite strange when I saw this this morning... the email from comp manager was irrelevant to this thread in my opinion

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Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Between you 2 geniuses its no wonder the game is in decline.
They cannot get refs, there are coaches invading the pitch a bit of racsim on top seem something more than a bit of pettiness, but to you 2 there's no problem or this isn't part of the problem.
Beside which there is no limit in the title in the nature of the decline: therefore a decline in behavioural standards is clearly within the title.
But if you don't think its relevant I guess that argument would be a bit much for you too.
If you think its irrelevant report it instead of congratulating yourselves on a job well done.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Yet more evidence of the decline in junior rugby in Sydney is revealed by the fact that only 12 schools in NSW and the ACT have entered the Waratah Shield in 2014. Only 5 of those are state schools, 3 of the 5 are specialist sports high schools, another is a selective state boarding school - leaving 1 comprehensive state high school in the competition.
 

Man on the hill

Alex Ross (28)
Between you 2 geniuses its no wonder the game is in decline.
They cannot get refs, there are coaches invading the pitch a bit of racsim on top seem something more than a bit of pettiness, but to you 2 there's no problem or this isn't part of the problem.
Beside which there is no limit in the title in the nature of the decline: therefore a decline in behavioural standards is clearly within the title.
But if you don't think its relevant I guess that argument would be a bit much for you too.
If you think its irrelevant report it instead of congratulating yourselves on a job well done.


Yep - you are a part of the problem - an opinionated bully . Any one who dares question or challenge your god given opinion gets smacked down.

Mate, if you are a representative of the people organising rugby, i can see why people would drop out or just not bother. In all likelihood you are the outspoken opinionated buffoon that the comp manager is warning against.

For rugby to succeed it needs to be inclusive and abide by its own rules.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Yep - you are a part of the problem - an opinionated bully . Any one who dares question or challenge your god given opinion gets smacked down.

Mate, if you are a representative of the people organising rugby, i can see why people would drop out or just not bother. In all likelihood you are the outspoken opinionated buffoon that the comp manager is warning against.

For rugby to succeed it needs to be inclusive and abide by its own rules.

Well thought out and completely contradictory of your premise that misbehaviour has nothing to do with the decline of junior rugby in Sydney.
If I were the subject of any of what is said in that email why would I post it?
 

sarcophilus

Charlie Fox (21)
I heard there is a new thread
'the decline in the subjects of debate on the GAGR schoolboy rugby threads'
the "violence in school boy Rugby" is probably the best place to go if you want to play the player and not the ball
the last lot is not far from you tube comments the quickly diminish into someone being called racist or being compared to firewood
 

Dingasden

Ward Prentice (10)
I dont buy this explanation.
There have been private schools in the Northern Zone since 1896 (at least).
Their 1st XVs have just about always played at 3:15pm on Saturday and formerly (but not so much lately) attendance for some of these schools at 1st XV games was compulsory for all students.
I don't think the commitments have changed.
There are more options: kids can do fencing, for instance. If they fence they are not going to play rugby for a local club team. The challenges to rugby come not only from our traditional competitors in Loig, AFL and soccer and we need to realise that.
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Agree with issue of more sports or "other activities" for kids to do these days and also kids or families wanting one day on a weekend to rest or have as a family day. But I raise the point that Private School training programs for the top 30 kids in older years is a lot more intense and demanding than it was 10 or more years ago. I have a club player in year 10 who is training with top squad at Newington - they are doing 8 rugby training sessions during the week! Is there any wonder he cant play club rugby on Sunday due to fatigue?
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Agree with issue of more sports or "other activities" for kids to do these days and also kids or families wanting one day on a weekend to rest or have as a family day. But I raise the point that Private School training programs for the top 30 kids in older years is a lot more intense and demanding than it was 10 or more years ago. I have a club player in year 10 who is training with top squad at Newington - they are doing 8 rugby training sessions during the week! Is there any wonder he cant play club rugby on Sunday due to fatigue?

I've been told the 3rds at New have 9 sessions a week.
 

WTF?

Tom Lawton (22)
How about 10/11 year olds who happen to do school, club and reps games/training i.e. 6 days a week including certain days with multiple sessions....

There are some tired boys out there who will look forward to the holidays and the NSW State Championships to be over.

I know some of you argue that U11's is too young for reps, maybe this is a another reason for the cessation of that age group.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
How about 10/11 year olds who happen to do school, club and reps games/training i.e. 6 days a week including certain days with multiple sessions..

There are some tired boys out there who will look forward to the holidays and the NSW State Championships to be over.

I know some of you argue that U11's is too young for reps, maybe this is a another reason for the cessation of that age group.

I'm an advocate of removing the distric rep teams for 10s and 11s and also for playing the district state championships at the end of the village season, not in the middle of it.

The whole thing needs a complete overhaul.

Too many layers of representation, too many overlapping competitions too many training sessions. I'm all for boys being exposed to different coaches in their career, but the idea that it is desirable for a boy to have a club coach, a school coach a district rep coach, a zone coach, a JGC coach and a Sydney coach ALL IN THE ONE YEAR is madness. (Sometimes two or three of these all telling the kids something different at the same time) No wonder the kids are confused.

Now that JGC is a reality in 15s and 17s, we've added another layer but kept all the existing ones. And it's the village club rugby which appears to be bearing the brunt of this as this is where the players are leaving.
 

S'UP

Bill Watson (15)
This is an exert from an email sent to a B grade team who have lost their first 2 games after there comp was re-graded. They were always in B. The club only has one team in the age group, I'm sure the boys on the bench are looking forward to their 5-10 minutes of game time each week.
I'm sure this will encourage the boys on the bench to come back next year. NOT. Maybe better player management and improved coaching might actually help the team win not excluding players from game time.

"to turn our current position around and to do this means to priorities current representative players and those assessed as having reach a higher level of skill in select positions. Equal game time will need to be abolished. Substitution will be based on game outcomes."
 

mangled

Frank Nicholson (4)
Gee that Club obviously only worries about results... To those on the bench there are plenty of other clubs out there! !!!

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