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Commonwealth Games Rugby 7s

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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Sorry to quote myself (he lied) but since this team is the same as nominated earlier, before the red herring kerfuffles, the following still applies.
Oz Sevens has done well since the "season" started last December, but this squad is missing some fine players.

Ed Quirk, Jacob Taylor, Clinton Sills, Henry Vanderglas and Ed Stubbs were mentioned last week as not available because of injury. Brackin Karauria-Henry and Richard Kingi can't play for Oz because they have NZ passports and Comm. Games eligibility is more stringent than for the IRB Sevens.

All Sevens teams need at least one flyer and a couple of fast strong backrowers to play in the 3 men scrums.

In these respects Sills, Quirk and especially Vanderglass (who was born to be a Sevens forward) will be sorely missed.

Nick Cummins could find himself packing down in the scrums.

Good Sevens teams have a good balance of:
- fliers
- steppers
- mobile forwards

Morahan will fill in for Sills, no problemo, but every team has a track sprinter in their squad and sometimes two. It would have been good to have another flier who is faster than Turner.

Steppers Kingi and KBH will be missed for midfield incursions which have a higher premium than against 15 defenders.

Vanderglass will be the player missed most from this squad. This team has only 2 forwards which is probably 2 light for a squad and 1 light for a game.

Cummins to be the lineout jumper?
 
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I think it's a shame about the injuries to the Quirks and the Sills but it is a decent chance for some of the younger guys at least like 18yr olod Gill and 19yr old Kimami.

I'm doing a facebook page to support the Australians at www.facebook.com/followthegames
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
http://www.rugby.com.au/news/sevens...s_squad,141474.html/news/latest/section/39652

2010 Australian Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens team

Robbie Coleman (20, NSW)

Nick Cummins (22, WA)

Bernard Foley (20, NSW)

Liam Gill (18, QLD)

Pat McCabe (22, NSW)

Pat McCutcheon (23, NSW)

Luke Morahan (20, QLD)

Nick Phipps (21, NSW)

Brian Sefanaia (24, NSW)

Kimami Sitauti (19, QLD)

James Stannard (27, ACT)

Lachie Turner (23, NSW)

.... And the countdown to the seven Men in Gold winning gold at the Olympics 2016 commences.

The 2016 Olympics will be the most important worldwide Rugby development event since the innaugural RWC in 1997, and we are in the box seat.
 
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Agreed. And I hope every nation takes it as seriously. If they do, and i'm sure the players will want to if there are medals up for grabs, it could be absolutely incredible. Just imagine a sevens tournament where every nation puts their seven best players on the field
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Agreed. And I hope every nation takes it as seriously. If they do, and i'm sure the players will want to if there are medals up for grabs, it could be absolutely incredible. Just imagine a sevens tournament where every nation puts their seven best players on the field

agreed, highly unlikely (although for the Olympics, who knows) but would be sensational.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
Agreed. And I hope every nation takes it as seriously. If they do, and i'm sure the players will want to if there are medals up for grabs, it could be absolutely incredible. Just imagine a sevens tournament where every nation puts their seven best players on the field

Which raises the obvious question, who would be our best Sevens seven? One thing that I have learned over the years, is that Sevens is a very different game - yes, some great players have been great in both forms of rugby (Christian Cullen springs to mind), but any nation that blindly chooses their best XV players is doomed to failure.

The only sure way to win Sevens tournaments is to play a lot of Sevens. It might be possible to inject one or two non-specialists, somebody like Rod Davies perhaps, maybe David Pocock, but the bulk of the squad has to have played a lot of Sevens.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
There would be barely any of the current top XV that would be great at Sevens. I'd probably have Beale, Turner and Ioane only. Cooper would be worth a try too.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Considering the timing of the Olympics (the year after the next RWC), we may have a few players hang on to compete at the Olympics, but if we are serious about winning a gold medal, then any player who wants to be part of the sevens team needs to be playing Sevens from the end of the S15 comp and rule themselves out of 3N or other test matches. Actually it is likely the Olympics will be around August, so they are also likely to rule themselves out of some of the S15 as well.

It will be interesting to see how the ARU approaches the contracts of the proposed 7s players.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Yeah, sorry forgot him. He was very good at 7s, where I also saw him play first (think it was when I was in Fiji and watching the Fiji 7s).
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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A lot of that squad as played 7s, not for a while for some. But I think these guys have:

- Peter Hynes
- AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
- JOC (James O'Connor)
- Gits
- Burgo
- Higgers
- Mitchell
- Hodgson

Any others
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I still wouldn't be picking them in a top 7s team right now. They'd have to dedicate to at least 3 months of 7s specific training first.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I still wouldn't be picking them in a top 7s team right now. They'd have to dedicate to at least 3 months of 7s specific training first.

Not just Sevens training, surely they would have to play the whole IRB circuit, at least once.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Considering the timing of the Olympics (the year after the next RWC), we may have a few players hang on to compete at the Olympics, but if we are serious about winning a gold medal, then any player who wants to be part of the sevens team needs to be playing Sevens from the end of the S15 comp and rule themselves out of 3N or other test matches. Actually it is likely the Olympics will be around August, so they are also likely to rule themselves out of some of the S15 as well.

It will be interesting to see how the ARU approaches the contracts of the proposed 7s players.

It is generally accepted that the Olympics 7's players would need to have had at least one year on the World 7's circuit. Thus key players in our tilt would have to have had both the 2015 and 2016 series under their belts, and the rest would have to had whatever 2016 series games can be accommodated.

The bulk of our Men in Gold for 2016 Olympics would be in the age range 19-26 years.
That would mean that these brave souls for 2016 are currently 14 - 20 years old. Turner and most current Professionals would be old men in rugby speak by then.

We've got to get more emphasis on 7's into the schools and juniors programmes for the youngsters to be ready in time. Both players and coaches need upskilling because tactically and strategically, it is a vastly different game. Success in XV's does not always correspond to success in 7's and vice versa.
 
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Yeah all true. I still think that there will always be room for that 'someone special' though. There are a couple of top international players who I'm sure could turn their hand to any oval-shaped ballgame. I have seen plenty of players who have been picked by their Sevens squads, playing for pretty much the first time seriously, anhd been like ducks into water. I think whilst most of the Sevens specialists will play, I would put alot of money on there being one or two well established international names in the squad too
 

stoff

Trevor Allan (34)
Damn - I was hoping it was a selection incentive scheme - make the side or walk home/get fed to the crocs. That would have seen some tough competition for positions.
 
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