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Looking forward to seeing Inman on Smith as well, two best 13's in aus conference so far I think.
Brumbies vs Rebels Rnd 8 Super Rugby 2012
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Paradox
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Speight has loads of x factor (and heart attack factor). Just needs the ball in space. I think Coleman should start from the bench.
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John Solomon (38)
We are more than screwed at tighthead: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...rseas-for-a-prop/story-e6frg7o6-1226322329665
Telling sign when you call up Greg Somerville.
Telling sign when you call up Greg Somerville.
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Massive blow for the rebels with Weeks out. The rebel backline needs a solid platform if they are to win this game.
Hopefully this doesn't disrupt the lineout either, which has been performing quite well recently.
Hopefully this doesn't disrupt the lineout either, which has been performing quite well recently.
Brumbies Guy
John Solomon (38)
Must be a master ploy to get uncontested scrums then. That'll give a pretty stable platform.
Athilnaur
Arch Winning (36)
I was staggered how well Gerrard fitted in as winger and second fullback. To the point if I was Robbie I'd be thinking about playing him there as well, his kicking game and read last week was impressive.
Add Inman, who has been a great counterpoint to Cips/JOC (James O'Connor), add a strong game from Phipps with a talent like Kingi on hand.
Add forwards who have really stepped up. our scrums are woeful and that worries me, but all in all I'm pretty damn proud of the boys one and all.
on the way home last week a saffa told me we'd be thrashed by the Bulls.
A month ago I'd have agreed.
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Add Inman, who has been a great counterpoint to Cips/JOC (James O'Connor), add a strong game from Phipps with a talent like Kingi on hand.
Add forwards who have really stepped up. our scrums are woeful and that worries me, but all in all I'm pretty damn proud of the boys one and all.
on the way home last week a saffa told me we'd be thrashed by the Bulls.
A month ago I'd have agreed.
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Hi mate, why were you staggered? That's where he has always played apart for a few appearances at 13 for the Rebels. He was always a wing or fullback at the Brumbies and a damn good one.
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Arch Winning (36)
good question. In the Samoa test he played ok, but paled against the running talent of Beale who we desperately needed in that game. Playing alongside Beale he was able to complement Beale without cramping Beale's style - something I wouldn't say of Quade in his role as a 10 cum 15 in the Wallabies.
I also have to confess I'd forgotten how long and accurate he is with his kicks, something I missed in the RWC.
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
And that doesn't even include his Brumbies highlights - 2k4 Super12 final anyone? Actually IIRC he was leading tryscorer that year too.
kronic
John Solomon (38)
I was actually trying to find a clip where he absolutely booted the shit out of the Gilbert for a touch finder in the 22 (more than usual).
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Dick Tooth (41)
I campaigned endlessly for Gerrard's selection at fullback in the early years of Deans reign of error, to the point of being mocked and accused of wishing to felate him. He was the best fullback in the world for 2008/9, before going to Japan, no arguments. He is still by far the best tactical kicker in Australia, and has been for half a decade.
Deans came over with his 'build pressure, then pounce on mistakes' Crusaders gameplan. He failed to then select the players who could carry it out. Carter is a superb tactical kicker, and was the lynchpin for the Saders in pinning opposition teams in their half and building pressure. However, without tactical kicks that actually DO build pressure, by pinning teams in their own half because they dont land in the arms of the most dangerous counterattacking back said kicker could see, and instead bounce into touch and force the opposition to handle the ball 20m in front of their own goalposts, you dont build pressure. Thats just kicking the ball away and letting the opposition (who DID select someone who can clear from the 22 to the opposition 10m line) force you backwards and make you start all over again, building pressure on your own team.
Deans came over and decided that we didn't need a tactical kicker, we just needed people who would kick it at every opportunity and hope for the best, labelling THAT as tactical kicking. No need for nice long 40m clearance kicks, or kicks that land in SPACE and achieve terretorial game. Apparently he's a quantity, not quality man, as is Berrick Barnes.
Gerrard is the biggest, and most costly (success lost) waste of talent in Deans' bumbling shitfight of a coching tenure.
Deans came over with his 'build pressure, then pounce on mistakes' Crusaders gameplan. He failed to then select the players who could carry it out. Carter is a superb tactical kicker, and was the lynchpin for the Saders in pinning opposition teams in their half and building pressure. However, without tactical kicks that actually DO build pressure, by pinning teams in their own half because they dont land in the arms of the most dangerous counterattacking back said kicker could see, and instead bounce into touch and force the opposition to handle the ball 20m in front of their own goalposts, you dont build pressure. Thats just kicking the ball away and letting the opposition (who DID select someone who can clear from the 22 to the opposition 10m line) force you backwards and make you start all over again, building pressure on your own team.
Deans came over and decided that we didn't need a tactical kicker, we just needed people who would kick it at every opportunity and hope for the best, labelling THAT as tactical kicking. No need for nice long 40m clearance kicks, or kicks that land in SPACE and achieve terretorial game. Apparently he's a quantity, not quality man, as is Berrick Barnes.
Gerrard is the biggest, and most costly (success lost) waste of talent in Deans' bumbling shitfight of a coching tenure.
kronic
John Solomon (38)
ROFL. Found a $10 ticket offer too, 2 days after I bought my rip off $37 GA tickets
I'll be expecting some banter then.
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John Eales (66)
Looks like Fotu Auela will be having his first game against the Rebels and could be starting at 8 with Mowen going to 6, Hooper starting at 7 and Fardy starting in the 2nd row. I hope that Fotu is in good shape; let's see.
In the backs Kudriani is expected to start at 13.
In the backs Kudriani is expected to start at 13.
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John Eales (66)
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Good piece up there about Gerrard but can't agree with all of it. I said for quite a time that Gerrard should be in any Wallaby squad to be trundled out if there is a test to be played in bad weather or ground conditions because of his long raking accurate kick and good rugby brain.
The reason why he is no longer playing for the Wallabies is that he is too slow. He can make it into position at fullback quite well because of his experience, but at the top level his lack of pace would be a problem against fast finishing wingers.
On attack his rugby brain masks his slowness as he helps faster team mates to finish the job but some opportunities have to be forgone because he can be run down.
He was found out in his last test match, in the loss against Samoa last year, though he wasn't the Lone Ranger that day.
I've seen him play since he was a nipper and he's always had a speed problem, even being embarrassed at club level many a time for my team, The Rats. His best position skill wise was always at 15 but factoring in his pace I always thought he would have been better as an outside centre.
Good piece up there about Gerrard but can't agree with all of it. I said for quite a time that Gerrard should be in any Wallaby squad to be trundled out if there is a test to be played in bad weather or ground conditions because of his long raking accurate kick and good rugby brain.
The reason why he is no longer playing for the Wallabies is that he is too slow. He can make it into position at fullback quite well because of his experience, but at the top level his lack of pace would be a problem against fast finishing wingers.
On attack his rugby brain masks his slowness as he helps faster team mates to finish the job but some opportunities have to be forgone because he can be run down.
He was found out in his last test match, in the loss against Samoa last year, though he wasn't the Lone Ranger that day.
I've seen him play since he was a nipper and he's always had a speed problem, even being embarrassed at club level many a time for my team, The Rats. His best position skill wise was always at 15 but factoring in his pace I always thought he would have been better as an outside centre.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Hopefully we'll see a tag team wrecking ball combination of Fotu and Vaea that should keep Hooper on the field for a full 80 minutes...
Being one of the fittest guys in the team, and apparently the second fastest member of the squad, there's really no need to bench Hooper unless there's injury concerns...
I'm sure someone is going to ask why Vaea doesn't get the start at 8, but I can see White's thinking on this allows him to have 4 lineout jumpers...
I'm surprised to see Fardy in the second row, but hopefully he'll do well there.
Bruce Ross
Ken Catchpole (46)
Slim, you might be just the man who can provide an answer to a quite serious question that has always troubled me. What possible advantage is there in selecting four lineout jumpers given that it probably compromises the work that the second and back rowers do for the other 75 non-lineout minutes of the game? Years ago I asked the same question of a Wallabies' lineout coach who had proudly drawn my attention to their lineout play book which was at least 3 centimetres thick, I kid you not. His answer was that it provided additional options, which was true but unhelpful.
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Bruce, what about mauling options? The Brumbies lineout last week was shut down well by the Reds so maybe Jake feels he needs another option. Furthermore, Saffa sides often have 4-5 lineout options so maybe it's a the Saffa thing.
I hope Auela is prepared to do the hard work but it looks like a fairly explosive back 5 for the Brumbies. Very happy for Fardy. He deserves his start. Kimlin made too many errors last week and Power was a non-event.
I hope Auela is prepared to do the hard work but it looks like a fairly explosive back 5 for the Brumbies. Very happy for Fardy. He deserves his start. Kimlin made too many errors last week and Power was a non-event.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Thanks for the response, Paradox. I don't see how you can fix a poor lineout by adding another jumper. You need to directly address what is causing the problem.
As for mauling I continue to be surprised by how easily mauls are fractured these days, due in my opinion to a lack of attention being given to the construction of the maul. The maul should be an ad-lib scrum utilising the same principles of tight binding and ideally a very similar structure in terms of player positioning.
And of course there is the almost universal practice of simply hinging at the hips and attempting to drive forward without any discernible knee bend. Rule 1 of mauling or rucking used to be that if you were in a comfortable body position you were too high. Six years ago I wrote an article titled, "Why do rugby players scrum and maul at such different body heights?" (http://myoquip.blogspot.com.au/2006/01/why-do-rugby-players-scrum-and-maul-at.html)
Like all of my other efforts at improving the world it has had zero impact.
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