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Brumbies 2012

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As I said Horwill is good but the others are no better than many locks in OZ rugby... To put it in perspective I don’t think Horwill would make the All Blacks. Kimo is as good as Simmons and old man Humpy... Power will be very good watch this space...
Once again thanks for not answering the question of identifying the weakest position in the Brumbies!

we aren't talking about other locks in Australia... We are talking about the Brumbies....

Kimlin is good, but it's yet to be seen whether Jake considers him a specialist lock..

Ben Hand, to me he exemplifies exactly what was wrong with the Brumbies in 2011, has size, but lacks the mongrel and commitment needed.

Leon Power, well he is a kiwi journeymen and was signed because they couldn't recruit a foreign marquee lock like Jake initially wanted to..

Sam Carter, potentially a good player, still needs experience..
 

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
I don't believe Power's signing was a case of him being all they could get... I think they were genuinely impressed with him and signed him up while leaving the foreign marquee spot open...

Carter has the size, but just needs to apply himself...

Hand was great a few years back but he has certainly dropped off...

Kimlin is a great talent, and could play himself back into the test squad with a good season...
 

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John Eales (66)
I don’t think Horwill would make the All Blacks.
Maybe Horwill wouldn't make the All Blacks - how can we ever know? The only thing we can be certain about is that Planet Rugby selected James Horwill and Brad Thorn as the two locks in their 2011 Team of the Year.

That proves nothing but that some other people rate Horwill highly.
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Horwill is a truly outstanding player, and athlete. I really don't understand how anyone could bin him. Not only is he an excellent ball carrier, but he plays tight and moves ruck. To top it off, he get pilfers consistently. What other lock in world rugby consistently jackals the ball? His set piece work is also strong.

Not trying to be touchy, but he really is one of our currently outstanding players.
 
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I don't believe Power's signing was a case of him being all they could get... I think they were genuinely impressed with him and signed him up while leaving the foreign marquee spot open...

Carter has the size, but just needs to apply himself...

Hand was great a few years back but he has certainly dropped off...

Kimlin is a great talent, and could play himself back into the test squad with a good season...

Thankyou, I think that's a pretty fair assessment
 

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Interesting...

At least one place is selling the Brumbies jersey before they get a sponsor:

http://www.onerugby.com.au/Rugby_Un...RJR036/Brumbies-2012-Replica-Home-Jersey.html

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Might make for an interesting collectors item in the future?
 

mudskipper

Colin Windon (37)
I don't believe Power's signing was a case of him being all they could get... I think they were genuinely impressed with him and signed him up while leaving the foreign marquee spot open...

Carter has the size, but just needs to apply himself...

Hand was great a few years back but he has certainly dropped off...

Kimlin is a great talent, and could play himself back into the test squad with a good season...

Agree thats a fair assessment...
Kimlin will push for a starting spot, power will impress he's not there to make up the numbers and I believe Carter is a genuine future wallaby...

Reds should be worrying about their loosies...
 

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Colin Windon (37)
No one will ever be more overrated than Will Genia, anointed worlds best far before he has lived up to it.

Genia is a world class player but he did have an ordinary RWC... He like everyone can be replaced and will be at sometime... Give Nic White a season in the S15 and he'll be giving Genia a run for his money... the Genia-Cooper-Digby combo was strong n 2011... without Cooper its questionable
 
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No one will ever be more overrated than Will Genia, anointed worlds best far before he has lived up to it.

Hmmmm quoting me out of context, but im going to reply anyway...

Refute my claim and point me to a better halfback currently at the Brumbies?
 

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Colin Windon (37)
Brumby stranded as Japanese club refuses early release
A contract stand-off has left monster ACT Brumbies recruit Fotu Auelua stranded in Japan just 35 days out from the opening game of the Super Rugby season.Despite requesting an early release from his deal with NTT Communications to join his new Brumbies teammates, Auelua still doesn't know when he will arrive in Canberra.
The 119kg wrecking ball is the only member of Jake White's squad who is not at pre-season training before the season-opener against the Western Force on February 24.
The Japanese regular season finishes on February 5, but NTT Communications is in line to make a wildcard playoff which could limit Auelua to just a few days with the Brumbies before they take on the Force.
Making matters worse for the powerful No8 is that he is nursing a medial ligament strain and will not play for the next two weeks.

When Auelua injured his knee, he asked NTT Communications if he could be released early to give him more preparation time with the Brumbies, but his request was denied.
''Obviously Jake would like me [in Canberra] as soon as possible and I was keen to get there to try to catch up with training,'' Auelua said.

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''I've asked a couple of times if I could be released [from Japan] and they said no so I respect their decision.
''I'm contracted here and I enjoy it here, but at the same time I feel like I should be with [the Brumbies] getting ready for the season.''

Given Auelua's limited preparation time, he does not expect to be in selection contention for the round one match.

But he has vowed to arrive in the capital injury free and nearing peak fitness to try to fast-track his bid to make his Super Rugby debut.

When Auelua does join the Brumbies, he will be locked in a battle with Ben Mowen, Ita Vaea and Colby Fainga'a to win a starting spot.
The 27-year-old has spent his career playing in France for US Dax and Toulon before moving to Japan last year to join NTT Communications.

He has established himself as a feared ball-runner and his 189cm, 119kg frame has the potential to leave a path of destruction in Super Rugby.

While Auelua is unlikely to feature in the starting XV until he has had sufficient time training with the Brumbies, forwards coach Laurie Fisher and White are starting to get an idea of how their forward pack will look.
Mowen will be the chief lineout caller and can play at the back of the scrum or at blindside flanker.

Damaging ball-runner Vaea burst into Super Rugby last season and played almost every game in his debut campaign.
''[Fotu's] explosive, has the power, strong carry and can hit, he's a very damaging player,'' Fisher said.

''The good thing is we've got flexibility in selection [for the back row], we've got explosive players and we have a choice of guys who bring a different skillset.''



 
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No one will ever be more overrated than Will Genia, anointed worlds best far before he has lived up to it.

Yes. Mike Phillips had a better World Cup. And the French halfback. Genia does the basics extremely well but still makes too many errors at Test level.
 
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