MarkJ
Bob Loudon (25)
This is the same Cheika that wouldn't pick Cooper in the Wallabies training squads when there were no other flyhalves available?
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This is the same Cheika that wouldn't pick Cooper in the Wallabies training squads when there were no other flyhalves available?
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
Especially when their are reports that the QC (Quade Cooper) - Reds deal actually has RA paying more than 50% possibly up to 75%.
We also never got a straight answer is there was a payout fee required to get him out of the Toulon contact. If the 75% is true then RA really have been shafted.
But the key question here is the payout. Why not just pay him out? It $650K for the Reds and there is no salary cap implications. If the 75% split with RA is true then its a $325K payout.
IMHO this is more about the Reds being on very thin ice financially which is ironic considering the amount of contracts they have paid out in recent years especially to ex-coaches.
The other part of this that is embarrassing for RA is that the national coach was the key driver of getting QC (Quade Cooper) to return and now is still wanting him around and is powerless.
So much for the talk about the Force players under RA contracts and that RA could compel players to move. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...ga-preventable-in-future-20180209-h0vuh0.html
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
What you say in part makes senses, except for the fact hat he has not been released nor paid out. he is still a cost on their books and filling a roster spot for the next two seasons.
The hilarious part of this is he could conceivably do a side deal with RA to get a flexi-contact clause to offset their costs (for their part of the contact) and play in Japan or elsewhere while the Reds still have to pay him. It may have to be during the Super Rugby off season but still, its possible. Cheika does want him playing.
You make it sound like the Reds bad season was his fault. There were very few players who stood up in 2017 and Quade wasn't as bad as many are saying he was.
This is where the Kiwi system works so much better. Central contracts and provinces can place a lock on their top 25 with the rest to be split amongst the other teams.
Also Cheika isn't to happy about the Quade situation. Would be interesting if he picked him in a Wallaby training squad.
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Phil Kearns (64)
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It’s subjective comment and doesn’t change anything I said
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Sir Nicholas Shehadie, one of the great men of Australian rugby of which you've never heard, has passed away,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/wallaby-great-sir-nicholas-shehadie-dies-in-sydney/9421732
Pretty amazing life
Wallaby with 114 games (not all tests), Lord Mayor of Sydney, husband to a NSW Governor, member of the Australian and World Rugby hall of fame, "architect" of the first World Cup
RIP
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/wallaby-great-sir-nicholas-shehadie-dies-in-sydney/9421732
Pretty amazing life
Wallaby with 114 games (not all tests), Lord Mayor of Sydney, husband to a NSW Governor, member of the Australian and World Rugby hall of fame, "architect" of the first World Cup
RIP
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
Yours or mine ! Both are, of course, subjective
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Naturally.... my point is your opinion of Quade doesn’t change how RA should be dealing with players. Quade is obviously a prime example, however Jono Lance was in predicament only a few weeks ago that shouldn’t have been an issue either.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
But he hasn't been given the flick, he's been kept on the Reds payroll so that no other franchise could use him.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
That stuff is ancient history. I can't recall any criticism regarding behaviour/attitude for years.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
No QH, he's been kept on the Red's payroll because he has a contract, I can assure you if someone else wanted him he would be released double quick so they can save his wage!
dru
Tim Horan (67)
Rubbish. If someone wants him, but Quade isn’t interested, it isn’t happening. Is Quade hunting? No reason to accept just anything at all that drops in at his feet. Also doubt either QRU or ARU is out checking Japan/Euro, in fact if Quade doesn’t authorise it they would have no right. Nothing shits me more than agents I haven’t authorised hawking my CV. It’s happened to me several times and they all learned the error of their ways. Quade has all the time in the world to resolve his next step. In his time. To his requirements.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Obviously he has a contract. Glad you agree he's still on the Reds payroll and hasn't been given the flick. I love people agreeing with me.
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
Aiden Toua has been re-signed by the Reds. His tackling and willingness to go into contact is of the same standard as Quade Cooper, must be something about that not being in the job description of schoolboy rockstars signed straight from high school. A uniquely Australian problem.
http://www.redsrugby.com.au/News/Ne...t-George-Queensland-Reds-sign-Aidan-Toua.aspx
To quote a great modern day philosopher 'STUPID AS STUPID DOES'- Forrest Gump
Maybe that should be on licence plates in Queensland?
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
You missed the point, and by a long way. Somebody makes a decision to sign a player, any player. The player has to perform at a certain level. That level is assessed, reassessed constantly. Part of the criteria is performance, pay scale, team culture,. Aiden was a schoolboy "star" and seen as having great potential that would be reached early. He didn't get to reach that level (through injury) and after 7 years, somebody made the call. He seems over those serious chronic injury problems and somebody has made a decision that the Reds need him (at whatever pay scale). I'm also sure that if he doesn't perform (to an acceptable level) that somebody will give him the flick.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Lol QH, I read your post , my bad mate I misunderstood the theme of your post.
Jamie
Watty Friend (18)
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YENDA TIES THE KNOT WITH RUGBY
FEBRUARY 14, 2018
As excitement brews ahead of another action-packed season of rugby, Yenda has come on board as the official beer of the Qantas Wallabies and Vodafone Super Rugby competition.
Owned by the Australian Beer Company, the three-year partnership will see Yenda take part in the 2018, 2019 and 2020 seasons.
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