SteveWA
Charlie Fox (21)
It was Nick White?
Australia v England: Match II @ Suncorp 7.55pm AEST, 09/07
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stillmissit
Peter Johnson (47)
That was my understanding when I was a ref but that was more than 10 years ago and things change. Maybe there is a ref here who knows the current protocol re TMO's.
The Ghost of Raelene
David Codey (61)
Are we being conditioned for the WC?
The last one was ruined by Ben Skeen.
Rae Rae
The last one was ruined by Ben Skeen.
Rae Rae
Tex
Greg Davis (50)
That was my take too. She got a lot of calls right but was very assertive and interceded on calls too regularly.
I thought the 50/22 call was wrong but it wasn't really material to the outcome as England were clearly the better team. We were better for periods but that first 30 minutes was enough to cruel any real chance of building pressure.
The harlem globetrotter shit we tried deep on our goal line was Super Rugby funny rugby. Flashy when it comes off, but it works 5% of the time.
The Ghost of Raelene
David Codey (61)
The "Harlem Globetrotter shit" was really just panic. Hope they are told never do that again. Get that ball into the stands and let everyone reset.
IMO the I hate the way officiating has become inherently negative. I understand the Duty of Care but when I hear the terms like "why Cant I award the try" or "Was there any foul play" it just ruins it for me. It feels like the 30 players on the field are trying to pass an exam by officials who cannot perform at the same level as the players at their occupation.
Rae Rae
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Yep. This is Joy Neville in general, having watched plenty of games where she was TMO. I'm loathe to single out any particular official but there is a pattern here. Forever interjecting and not always in a helpful way.
Penguin
John Solomon (38)
Not taking 3 points on offer to cut the Poms lead down to 2.
LeCheese
Greg Davis (50)
The use of can't and similar phrasing is deliberate and taught to provide an anchor for decision making in the case of uncertainty (obstructed camera angles, simultaneous events, etc.). I much prefer a decision having already being made on field, which is then confirmed, as opposed to open-ended questions when it comes to tries.
On the other hand, for something like foul play, that is often less clear-cut than a ball being grounded (and also often secondary to the main action the referee is keeping an eye on), I think it makes sense to leave it open.
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Yep those of us who watch the Premiership and/or URC very familiar with her.
She's horrible, just wants to get involved whenever.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Not a ref but this is the most recent WR (World Rugby) protocol wrt TMO, AR's etc
LeCheese
Greg Davis (50)
The guiding principles are a masterclass in using non-binding terms
Edit: 18.8 would indicate that the TMO was correct to rule on the 50:22
Tex
Greg Davis (50)
And instruct Hodge to just launch the pill back over the 50
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Why is the TMO allowed to impose themselves?
Surely the TMO should only be involved IF the referee asks for assistance ie when un-sighted or misses something in back play.
The Ghost of Raelene
David Codey (61)
LeCheese
Greg Davis (50)
World Rugby can't win either way - fans get pissed when the ref misses something and TMO doesn't/can't get involved, and fans get pissed when the TMO gets involved.
Autonomy for the TMO to make correct calls (or flag things to be looked at by on-field team) is the lesser of two evils.
very valid, much like imposing our thoughts on a test match, we'd all do it if we could.
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
The TMO pulling up the Tupou cleanout and Genge on White are the issues. Those were nothing incidents. Is anyone complaining if those were missed?
The TMO should just mention it to the ref at the next stoppage, who can then speak to the player involved and warn them. That seems a much better solution for the fluidity of the game.
The TMO should just mention it to the ref at the next stoppage, who can then speak to the player involved and warn them. That seems a much better solution for the fluidity of the game.
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Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Just another thing from this weeks Breakdown program that I thought was of interest in this thread. The discussion was on yellow and red cards, and part of it was on the Perese yellow, and how angry the panel was (and as a kiwi panel pretty neutral), I think as they said it was pretty obvious that it was an obvious interept attempt, and as in a lot of cases they are penalising players for actual ruby plays. As Bates pointed out Perese looked disappointed when he knocked it down, not because he was thinking yellow card, but because he wasn't scoring a try up other end!!
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