Australia A - Back on the Cards

[7137]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1549341488722907136

I guess with all the players in the Wallabies the Brumbies are a bit short! Hahaha

 

[Members Section]

Surely that's just speculation on his part. Poor speculation at that. Because why would Japan who have proven themselves competitive at the T1 level or at least competitive enough to warrant regular tests against them want to play Aus A? Add to that why would they having actually hosted the Wallabies in the past entertain the step down? Unless it's Japan A it's not really worth their time.

I agree with you on their now a T1 level but they only have 2 games lined up in the nov window. 2 games against Aus A might be more enticing than scrambling a game against a tier 2 euro side

 

[Braveheart81]

No, what I'm saying is that I don't see the benefit to them running their national squad out against our development team. I thought we'd as a sprt had moved past treating them as T2 at this point. If it's Japan A then there's definitely benefit to it. But for a Union who successfully hosted and competed at two RWC now and who have actively sought out games against T1 opponents it makes no sense to play your national team against Aus A. It certainly won't make their case any easier to sell to be included in say The Rugby Championship in the future.

Is the benefit for Japan that they get additional games that aren't test matches which can still be used to develop and cap fringe test players in what is a fairly open schedule for them?

If it's outside the international window but Japan wants some warm up games for their End of Year Tour it potentially gives them a good opposition they otherwise wouldn't get when there aren't other options available.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Lets them cast an eye over our developing players too and an opportunity to offer contracts to any stand outs.

 

[Braveheart81]

Let's them cast an eye over our developing players too and an opportunity to offer contracts to any stand outs.

They're all capped players now though so they can only field two on the field at any time. Makes it hard to sign guys that aren't out and out stars at least in the top league.

 

[Members Section]

Japan now have test against the ab's on oct 29 & then a full book nov tour of europe, so we might end up playing a "sunwolfs" japan a side

 

[7137]

They're all capped players now though so they can only field two on the field at any time. Makes it hard to sign guys that aren't out and out stars at least in the top league.

Japan regs regarding foriegn players.
Player Categories
A. Japan National players and non international’s
B. Foreign players eligible for Japan selection.
C. Internationals

From Jan 2022;
They must have 11 Cat A players on the field and 17 on the match sheet. No limit on Catagory B but only 3 category “C” players on the field.

From 2023;
Limit applies to squads in that 80% must be Category A. B and C will be treated the same and can only make up 20% of the squad.

 

[dru]

Japan regs regarding foriegn players.
Player Categories
A. Japan National players and non international’s
B. Foreign players eligible for Japan selection.
C. Internationals

From Jan 2022;
They must have 11 Cat A players on the field and 17 on the match sheet. No limit on Catagory B but only 3 category “C” players on the field.

From 2023;
Limit applies to squads in that 80% must be Category A. B and C will be treated the same and can only make up 20% of the squad.

That easy money opportunity seems to be tightening.

 

[7137]

That easy money opportunity seems to be tightening.

Probabaly harder for non established players to get a spot in the squad. But I think we will see more big money offers for the top players. Why spend squad spots on lesser players when you could fill out your matchday with world class players?

 

[PhilClinton]

Probabaly harder for non established players to get a spot in the squad. But I think we will see more big money offers for the top players. Why spend squad spots on lesser players when you could fill out your matchday with world class players?

From an Australian perspective, by re-introducing Australia A, it means all those Wallaby fringe players now firmly fall into Category C for Japanese team selection.

If you are only allowed 3 of the Cat C players on the field, you'd want them to be proper capped test players, not the A level.

 

[7137]

From an Australian perspective, by re-introducing Australia A, it means all those Wallaby fringe players now firmly fall into Category C for Japanese team selection.

If you are only allowed 3 of the Cat C players on the field, you'd want them to be proper capped test players, not the A level.

As I understand it, there will no longer be a limit of 3 on the field next year. The limits apply only on the total squad.

 

[RugbyReg]

Three games in October

10/01　Japan A v Australia A
10/08　Japan A v Australia A
10/15　Japan A v Australia A

 

[Members Section]

Three games in October

10/01　Japan A v Australia A
10/08　Japan A v Australia A
10/15　Japan A v Australia A

Geez with our injuries i'm worried about this squad being anounced

 

[RugbyReg]

Geez with our injuries i'm worried about this squad being anounced

Other than Quade and perhaps Hooper, who will still be out by then?

 

[KOB1987]

I don’t think it really matters anyway, select the best squad available and give them the opportunity.

 

[PhilClinton]

Other than Quade and perhaps Hooper, who will still be out by then?

Kerevi
Banks
Perese

Possible they draft one of the young 10s into the Wobs squad?

Back stocks might be a bit thin for the A side.

Could be a good opportunity for a returning player like Hegarty to have a run though.

 

[7137]

Kerevi
Banks
Perese

HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes), Swinton.

 

[7137]

Three games in October

10/01　Japan A v Australia A
10/08　Japan A v Australia A
10/15　Japan A v Australia A

Given these games don’t interfere with the Spring tour, I expect they will use them for quite a few main squad players who need game time

 

[Adam84]

I wonder what this will mean for the tours that the super rugby teams had rumoured, consecutive perhaps. Would struggle for concurrent tours with numbers

 

[Wilson]

I wonder what this will mean for the tours that the super rugby teams had rumoured, consecutive perhaps. Would struggle for concurrent tours with numbers

I think it's probably factored in - both things were rumoured at the same time and it sounded like the super tours were facilitated by the Aus A one:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1549341488722907136

I'm assuming the super tours will follow the Aus A one, with the next season in Japan set to start in December that slots right into the pre-season for them