Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Is it, though?
Argentina v Australia TRC Round 4 Sunday 8 September 5am (AEST)
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Tomthumb
Chilla Wilson (44)
Kurt Lee Arendse then
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
Your not the problem, you are just an annoying shit bag. How many times can you say the same fucking thing.
I can predict your next ten posts. Get Skelton, Rory and Kerevi, durp durp. Throw in some a sprinkle of victimism. And you no longer need to post
Make your point once then move the fuck on.
drewprint
Dick Tooth (41)
lol he’s a martyr now.
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Marce
John Hipwell (52)
You didn't, my next post is: "NZRU board should be happy after this TRC round, they make the right decision for their interest creating the new Bledisloe Cup"
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
"Hey Marika, I'll race you to those dandelions over there"
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Marce
John Hipwell (52)
It's easy for u to make these jokes cause u have a license to kill here.
Goosestep
Jim Clark (26)
As a nation we have never valued a or promoted having a large front row/ forward … the focus has always been being mobile over sheer size.
can’t get away with that anymore
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
It was a great offload by Molina. Caught 4 Wallabies out, none of whom expected the ball to be passed on out of the ruck.
Stewart is just unlucky he was the one caught by the camera
Stewart is just unlucky he was the one caught by the camera
Marce
John Hipwell (52)
That's right but when South Africa was a Top 5 nation, not too long ago. They always lost against the ABs and were consistenly beat by the Wallabies in Australia. They had big bodies to avoid a 67-27 defeat. It's not the best the way but can help.
griffins
Ted Thorn (20)
Gleeson in that case had shot out of the line leaving Wilson isolated and creating the offload opportunity. Was a common theme through that second haf as individuals tried to problem solve by themselves, leading to worse linebreaks. Obviously the precondition for these situations is quick ball, so the guys in the middle are part of the problem too.
Its wrong to say they weren't having a go though, as many have said. If anything some of our worst decisions/plays came from guys trying too hard for the big play.
Its wrong to say they weren't having a go though, as many have said. If anything some of our worst decisions/plays came from guys trying too hard for the big play.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Wow, where to start. A game of two halves, ha ha.
Actually, the Wallabies did look good in the first half. Tizzano was in everything; Wilson had a belter; the backline was effective; Gus Bell ruled the park and the scrum was at least at parity. They were competitive and it showed on the scoreboard.
Come the second half, and Bell gives way to Slipper, AAA already with 10 - 15 minutes on the field in the first half, the scrum starts going backwards and the defence opens up cracks as large as the Sydney Heads. Unfortunately, Argentina decided to play fast, open, attacking rugby and everything they tried came off. An exceptional performance from them.
On the scrum, it looked to me that we gave ground only on the LH side. James Slipper was shuffling backwards under pressure and Rob Valetini illegally joined the front row on occasions to support him. I thought Allan Ala'alatoa was still strong but can anybody actually point out any penalties he gave away? I don't recall any. And I'd say 50 minutes of Allan with effort around the ground and parity on his side of the scrum serves the team better than 30 minutes of Tupou in a handful of scrums and laziness around the ground.
The size of the loss however was due to the backline failing to perform in defence. This could simply be down to the number of changes made from the past few weeks, or to their inability to rejoin the fray after one involvement under the pressure of the sheer pace of the Puma's attack, or some poor defensive reads and efforts on the part of some individuals. Len Ikitau went backwards from his efforts in last week's game but may have an injury excuse. Koroibete and Donaldson missed tackles they should have made and by the end Kellaway was simply ushering the Puma players through to the tryline.
For the upcoming tests and EOYT, I think serious thought has to be given to :-
* replacing, or at least resting, James Slipper. Bell needs to go 60 minutes or thereabouts and either Kailea or Hodgeman come on from the bench.
* Tupou needs to be managed better. Thirty minutes is not enough time in a test match.
* Lynagh is not yet anywhere near test match standard and may never be. He is too slow and too small at this level and doesn't offer any other skills to compensate. Pretty much the same problems as Noah has.
* Stewart has had one good game and one poor to average in his two tests. Stick with him for the present until a bigger body with better skills comes along. Paisami is not that man.
* replacing Koroibete altogether as he is over the hill and is a liability to the team.
* moving Kellaway to the bench.
* dispensing with playing both Rob Valetini and Harry Wilson at the same time. They are similar players but Harry just doesn't have Rob's presence on the field. Langi Gleeson also doesn't provide the necessary impact as a replacement for Valetini.
I was (perhaps alone) in thinking Max Jorgenson had a good game in the circumstances. Very few errors, if any of note and solid if not spectacular. He will improve. Good to also see Canham get a little bit of game time. I see him as backup/competition to Frost for one second row spot.
Actually, the Wallabies did look good in the first half. Tizzano was in everything; Wilson had a belter; the backline was effective; Gus Bell ruled the park and the scrum was at least at parity. They were competitive and it showed on the scoreboard.
Come the second half, and Bell gives way to Slipper, AAA already with 10 - 15 minutes on the field in the first half, the scrum starts going backwards and the defence opens up cracks as large as the Sydney Heads. Unfortunately, Argentina decided to play fast, open, attacking rugby and everything they tried came off. An exceptional performance from them.
On the scrum, it looked to me that we gave ground only on the LH side. James Slipper was shuffling backwards under pressure and Rob Valetini illegally joined the front row on occasions to support him. I thought Allan Ala'alatoa was still strong but can anybody actually point out any penalties he gave away? I don't recall any. And I'd say 50 minutes of Allan with effort around the ground and parity on his side of the scrum serves the team better than 30 minutes of Tupou in a handful of scrums and laziness around the ground.
The size of the loss however was due to the backline failing to perform in defence. This could simply be down to the number of changes made from the past few weeks, or to their inability to rejoin the fray after one involvement under the pressure of the sheer pace of the Puma's attack, or some poor defensive reads and efforts on the part of some individuals. Len Ikitau went backwards from his efforts in last week's game but may have an injury excuse. Koroibete and Donaldson missed tackles they should have made and by the end Kellaway was simply ushering the Puma players through to the tryline.
For the upcoming tests and EOYT, I think serious thought has to be given to :-
* replacing, or at least resting, James Slipper. Bell needs to go 60 minutes or thereabouts and either Kailea or Hodgeman come on from the bench.
* Tupou needs to be managed better. Thirty minutes is not enough time in a test match.
* Lynagh is not yet anywhere near test match standard and may never be. He is too slow and too small at this level and doesn't offer any other skills to compensate. Pretty much the same problems as Noah has.
* Stewart has had one good game and one poor to average in his two tests. Stick with him for the present until a bigger body with better skills comes along. Paisami is not that man.
* replacing Koroibete altogether as he is over the hill and is a liability to the team.
* moving Kellaway to the bench.
* dispensing with playing both Rob Valetini and Harry Wilson at the same time. They are similar players but Harry just doesn't have Rob's presence on the field. Langi Gleeson also doesn't provide the necessary impact as a replacement for Valetini.
I was (perhaps alone) in thinking Max Jorgenson had a good game in the circumstances. Very few errors, if any of note and solid if not spectacular. He will improve. Good to also see Canham get a little bit of game time. I see him as backup/competition to Frost for one second row spot.
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Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Hey Marce,
Further to our earlier convo, let's go ahead and swap accounts back again.
As per previous, you DM me your password and I'll DM you mine.
They'll never know! It'll be great fun.
Hope this DM finds you well.
-- Dismo.
Further to our earlier convo, let's go ahead and swap accounts back again.
As per previous, you DM me your password and I'll DM you mine.
They'll never know! It'll be great fun.
Hope this DM finds you well.
-- Dismo.