2024 Super Rugby Under 16 and 19 series (29th Sept - 3rd Nov)

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Can anyone answer why the Aus 18s are playing during the Super Rugby 19s tournament. Surely the vast majority of these guys would potentially be available looking to play in this as well.

There are definitely a few that would start easily in this comp. It won't surprise me to see some get into the U20s squad and jump a few of these U19s.

There is a somewhat worry about saftey aspects of the young blokes in the U18s who might just be 17 which almost half the side is going against some boys nearing 20. Can be a big difference in strength.

Another could be the potential clash with year 12 exams that start over the next couple of weeks right? Could be wrong there with dates. It also lets more guys play more footy if spread out over the two age grades.

 

[Slim 293]

Yeah, essentially the U19’s are contracted academy/colts players…

The U18’s are schoolboys, with a broader and much younger age group, largely unattached, and many of them also play league and have already been courted by NRL teams:

Teen sensation commits to league after beating New Zealand in rugby

One day after helping Australia Under-18s to their first win over New Zealand in five years, Heamasi Makasini has pledged his future to the NRL.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Rudderless]

Round 3 of 5

Local Times
Live on Stan Sport

Force has the BYE

Saturday 12th

Rebels v Brumbies (La Trobe Uni)
U16 11.05am
U19 1.05pm

Sunday 13th

Reds v Waratahs (Norths Rugby Club, Shaw rd Wavell Heights)
U16 12.05pm
U19 2.05pm

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Interesting games

Tahs with a week off having only played the Rebels and the Reds confidence must be really high after thumping the Brums. QLD need to get some wins over NSW in the age groups. Been a Blue wave for a few years now. QLD looked like they had some big ball runners in the 19s.

 

[Love2Scrum]

Interesting games

Tahs with a week off having only played the Rebels and the Reds confidence must be really high after thumping the Brums. QLD need to get some wins over NSW in the age groups. Been a Blue wave for a few years now. QLD looked like they had some big ball runners in the 19s.

I was at Viking Park on the weekend and I must say the QLD U19 forwards especially their T5 are massive. They dominated Brumbies in the 2nd half.

They will be full of confidence leading up to this weekends game against the Tahs.

 

[Rudderless]

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Got a genuine 8 at 7.

Going the size route it seems.

 

[Bob Peters]

I saw a post recently that listed the Waratahs aligned No.8 players by age group:
U20 Leafi Talataina
U19 Eamon Doyle
U18 Toby Brial
U17 Heinz Lemoto
U16 Justice Taumoepeau

Not all will stay, but not all will end up at 8. Players like Doyle probably at 6, but Justice definitely has the ability to play 7 in future years.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Will avoid too much chat on some players here as they are pretty young.

I have a feeling we won’t see much of Lemoto in Rugby (really hope I’m wrong)

Tailalatiana looks like a genuine star from his time in the 20s when he was only 18?

Doyle has the ability to be a 4,5,6,8 and reminds me of Tom Hooper.

Brial looks a hard nosed 6 long term. He’s all work rate and hit ups.

Justice is very young still being 16 so who knows what he becomes but he’s a big unit for his age and his old man is definitely a big unit too so 7 feels a stretch in the Aussie mold of a 7 but his uncle is a pro Winger so who knows.

Also a very likely NSW won’t have all these guys on the books in a few years. Tahs export more talent then they hold.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

 

[Love2Scrum]

 

[Love2Scrum]

 

[Wilson]

Uys straight onto the bench for the 19s is exciting, if he backs up well that's a lot of punch off the bench

 

[Slim 293]

Uys straight onto the bench for the 19s is exciting, if he backs up well that's a lot of punch off the bench

He's still only 16 as well...

I wonder how he'd feel about continuing his U19's career further south?

 

[Wilson]

He's still only 16 as well...

I wonder how he'd feel about continuing his U19's career further south?

Uninterested, I hope. Seems like him rocketing straight into the top side means he's very much in the plan. Could be putting a bit of pressure on King and Bloomfield long term though, with Nonggorr and De Lutiis at the Reds there's not much room on the tight head side, Uys coming through might close the door on one of them swapping to loosehead pretty quickly.

 

[Dctarget]

He's still only 16 as well...

I wonder how he'd feel about continuing his U19's career further south?

16! I thought he was 18 by the way he was playing. That's exciting.

 

[Slim 293]

Uninterested, I hope. Seems like him rocketing straight into the top side means he's very much in the plan. Could be putting a bit of pressure on King and Bloomfield long term though, with Nonggorr and De Lutiis at the Reds there's not much room on the tight head side, Uys coming through might close the door on one of them swapping to loosehead pretty quickly.

It sounds like your roster is a bit full... happy to take him off your hands.

 

[Wilson]

It sounds like your roster is a bit full... happy to take him off your hands.

If you guys could put a few years of development into him and return him at 19, ala De Lutiis, that would be acceptable. Otherwise go shopping in Sydney, age grade is the last chance they have to win anything there so they'll likely jump at the chance to get out.

 

[farrellybros]

Uys straight onto the bench for the 19s is exciting, if he backs up well that's a lot of punch off the bench

Hopefully we get to see him pack against Goddard - if he can pass that that test then we can get excited. There were definitely moments in those 18's games when he looked shaky against what appeared to be an undersized NZ front row. While he continues to wear 1 on his back everything should start (and stop) with how he performs at scrum time. Right now to me he looks more like an 8

 

[Wilson]

Hopefully we get to see him pack against Goddard - if he can pass that that test then we can get excited. There were definitely moments in those 18's games when he looked shaky against what appeared to be an undersized NZ front row. While he continues to wear 1 on his back everything should start (and stop) with how he performs at scrum time. Right now to me he looks more like an 8

Look, I get what your saying, but a 16 year old recent convert to the front row playing 2 years up was occasionally shaky at the highest level? I'm not even remotely worried. His potential for improvement there is massive, much more than his competition.

From all reports he's already doing the work at 1st XV level, and the fact he's playing 18s and 19s this year (with a very good chance of heading to the u20s world cup next year) means he's not hiding behind his size at the lower levels and will continued to be challenged throughout his age grade development. Occasionally being exposed is almost a plus at this stage, if he's not he's probably not being challenged enough.