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2012 Rugby Championship R5G1 Springbokke vs Wallabies @ the Bull Ring

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PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
about as funny as a fart in a Saffa bathtub
Why is that Boet? Shout out Loftus in a Reds cloak room and they change from fart to shite in no time. The only thing that may cancel this is the amount of Stormers in the Bok team. Maybe wrong because WP /Stormers have turn the table in the last few years in the Bull Ring.
 

Penguin

John Solomon (38)
On the field:
AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) - 11, 13, 14, 15
Barnes - 10, 12, 15
Beale - 10, 15
Ioane - 11, 13
McCabe - 12, 14 (15?)

Yeah, looks like they're really going to be in trouble if a back gets injured.


So much sarcasm around here these days :confused: I am well aware of the versatility of those players but I think it upsets the rhythm of the team if three or four players have to shift positions to accommodate an injury. The bench backs cover 2 maybe three positions at most. I would have thought someone more versatile than Ant would be more useful if there is to be a 5:2 split.
But whatever, I like the look of the team, it's likely the best we can put out at the moment.
Looking forward to Beale at ten & am glad that Barnes is still at 15, I thought he looked good there against the Puma.
 

Richo

John Thornett (49)
Yeah, I don't get Ant on the bench. To my mind he's an 80 minute player and shouldn't play if he's not going to start. I'd prefer Harris or Taps.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Harris and taps stayed in Brisbane for the grand final. Maybe they are still acclimatising.

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DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
Bok supporters must be throwing shit at their screens seeing Kane Kirchener picked. He was pretty awful against New Zealand.
 

GaffaCHinO

Peter Sullivan (51)
Looks like higgers may be out with a back injury which he got at training.

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ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
Great for Kane Douglas to get another shot. I have no doubt Timani would have been slipped straight back in if fit.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I think the team with we've picked is probably the best we can with the players available. I like KB (Kurtley Beale) getting a run at 10, which will be interesting in that we'll see how well he runs a backline at test level.

Can't help but think we'll be lucky to get within 10 points with the team the Boks have picked and playing at Loftus.

I have no doubt, however, that the Wobs team out there will play their hearts out. Whatever criticism I might have about our patterns of play and selections, I have none regarding the ticker these blokes have got. Several times in the last year when they could have thrown in the towel they have stuck fat and got the win. I like that about them.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Boks ready to exploit Beale the bold

DateSeptember 28, 2012
Greg Growden
JOHANNESBURG: The Springboks were quick to apply the drip treatment on the new Wallabies five-eighth Kurtley Beale by arguing his selection will help their game plan during Saturday night's Test in Pretoria.
Springboks coach Heyneke Meyer took the dramatic step of dropping long-time pivot Morne Steyn for a home ground international at Loftus Versfeld, saying his replacement, Johan Goosen, will more than match the attacking capabilities of Beale.
While the Wallabies were arguing that moving Beale into the spot left vacant by Quade Cooper's knee injury will make their attack more unpredictable and dangerous, the Springboks countered that the opposition's eagerness to be adventurous will provide them with opportunities.
The Springboks are aware Beale will be playing for the first time at five-eighth at Test level, and although accustomed to that role at schoolboys and provincial level, believe that at an inhospitable venue he could be vulnerable.
''The Wallabies like to open up the game from the kick-off, and try to keep the ball,'' Meyer said. ''As they are probably going to go with Beale at No. 10, their intention will be to move us around, and hopefully people will tire. But I like that, because this gives you chances to get turnovers, and you can score from that.
''They'll definitely play an attacking game, and that will also suit us because we are eager to open up the game as well. We want to score tries.''

Several weeks after Robbie Deans explained Beale's physical condition had to improve before he would be considered for a starting spot, the Wallabies coach said his controversial utility player was again primed for 80 minutes of Test football.

He argued Beale's dreadful performance showing against the All Blacks in Sydney was in the ''past history'' category. Beale had dropped some weight and was again fully fit.
''Because of injuries he entered this tournament not in an ideal shape,'' Deans said. ''He's in a far better shape now. No player likes to come up short, and he was frustrated because he couldn't do the things he wanted to do. And he was the first to concede he wasn't where he needed to be. He certainly wasn't in denial.''
After being convinced Beale was no longer carrying any extra weight Deans had no hesitation in making him the Wallabies new chief playmaker.

''I have never any doubt about picking Kurtley anywhere. Obviously he had an outing in Sydney which no one enjoyed. But he's such a capable player that he's never going to be down for long,'' Deans said.
''Playing at No. 10 is not an issue for him. He's such an instinctive player. One of the challenges for him will be deciding when to play and when not to play, because he is a bloke who does hold onto the ball and takes the game to the opposition.''
The Wallabies are keen to win for the first time in Pretoria, and helping Beale's case is that he knows how to destroy South Africa on the high veld. His last-minute penalty kick two years ago in Bloemfontein gave Australia their first win at altitude since 1963.
''That will help him,'' Deans said. ''Players have to encounter adversity. Things ebb and flow. You don't always have everything your own way. So to have those moments, those good memories in the back of your mind which you can draw from is important.''
The Pretoria Test will also be a moment of personal triumph for loose-head prop Benn Robinson, who will be involved in his 50th international. Robinson is one of Australia's unluckiest players, missing the past two World Cups with injury. He could be in line for 100 Wallabies Tests because he wants to still be around for the next World Cup, in 2015.
''Playing in a World Cup is definitely my ultimate goal,'' the 28-year-old said yesterday. ''Missing out on two World Cups is difficult to cope with. Last year was emotionally very tough for me … if I can tick that box by the end of my career that would be great.''
Meanwhile, there was a mishap at Wallabies training yesterday, with reserve forward Scott Higginbotham injuring his back in a collision with Nathan Sharpe. Team medical staff will assess Higginbotham's condition today.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/boks-ready-to-exploit-beale-the-bold-20120927-26nyh.html#ixzz27heSIE7e


Good to see a coach highlighting a problem a with player's performance (even publicly - oh the shame) and the player getting his shit together
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
"I have never any doubt about picking Kurtley anywhere."

Good to know if we lose two props.

Maybe Beale could have been utilised on the wing?
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
I remember reading an article back in late 2010 where Kurtley was asked why his form had improved from previous years. I recall that he basically put it down to body shape / fitness. He said he slimmed down dramatically which made him a lot more lethal with ball in hand. This worries me a bit. He certainly hasn't looked in great shape as of late and I suspect he's carrying a bit too much weight to make the impact he did in 2010. just a thought
 

emuarse

Chilla Wilson (44)
So much sarcasm around here these days :confused: I am well aware of the versatility of those players but I think it upsets the rhythm of the team if three or four players have to shift positions to accommodate an injury. The bench backs cover 2 maybe three positions at most. I would have thought someone more versatile than Ant would be more useful if there is to be a 5:2 split.
But whatever, I like the look of the team, it's likely the best we can put out at the moment.
Looking forward to Beale at ten & am glad that Barnes is still at 15, I thought he looked good there against the Puma.

Fairly simple substitution in the backs if there is injury. If a winger or full back goes down, then AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) moves there and Ant takes his position. If Beale is down at flyhalf, then Barnes moves up & AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) moves back. If McNab down, then Ant again - no brainer.
And yes, if a second back goes down, Samo to wing & Ioane to out-centre, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) to fullback for Barnes to go to the inside back position.
I'm thinking of applying for Deane's job.
 

Lee Enfield

Jimmy Flynn (14)
I have put my easy earned money on the Wallabies. I think Coopers comments have had the opposite affect to what people think. The Wallabies have been flying under the radar for the best part of 10 days thanks to Cooper and I think his comments will have them fired up. The chip kicks at altitude won't be chip kicks, but tactical mid field bombs which will give us good field position.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Strauss on the test
Sport24
Springbok vice-captain and hooker Adriaan Strauss says Johan Goosen is unlikely to buckle under the pressure when he starts his first Test against Australia on Saturday.
National coach Heyneke Meyer made a surprise decision on Wednesday when he named the 20-year-old Goosen in place of Morne Steyn for the Rugby Championship match in Pretoria.
“Maybe he will be a bit nervous and just be in the moment," Strauss said of his Cheetahs team-mate.
"I don’t think the nerves will get the better of him.
“He is the player that I’ve come up against and met in my life that can handle pressure the best.
“It looks like he can’t feel pressure and hopefully he can perform well this weekend.”
Strauss said the final quarter of the Test would be crucial against the Australians at altitude.
The Wallabies have won their last two matches in South Africa and the two sides last met at altitude in Bloemfontein in 2010.
“The last 20 minutes in every game is probably the most important," Strauss said.
"It is vital to build the momentum throughout the game and then at the end you must finish them and execute well in the last couple of minutes.
“We are on the highveld now and the last 20 minutes is going to be tough.”
Meanwhile, flank Willem Alberts said the Springbok pack’s performance in their defeat to New Zealand in Dunedin two weeks ago was proof that they had started to click as a unit.
“You go out every week just to give your best," Alberts said.
"As a forward pack we played quite well and all the individual performances seemed to be a bit better.
“I just hope as a team and as a pack we can play better this weekend and that will help everyone to lift their game.”
It will be the second match that Alberts, Duane Vermeulen and Francois Louw play together as a loose trio, with Marcell Coetzee making an impact off the bench.
While they have not had a lot of time playing together, Alberts felt all four loose forwards brought something different to the table.
“We haven’t played a lot but everyone brings a different aspect into the loose trio and I thought we played quite well together with Flo (Louw) slowing up the ball at the rucks,” Alberts said.
“When Marcell comes on he brings a lot of energy and he can be a starter in any team in the world.
“It is good for us to know we can give everything on the field and when the backup comes on, he is not a reserve but an impact player.”
Alberts said the forwards pack might be young and inexperienced in terms of age but he believed the younger players had shown their worth in recent months.
“The younger guys like Eben (Etzebeth) and Marcell aren’t youngsters anymore, a couple of Tests in now,” he said.
“So they bring a new energy to the pack and they bring a lot of pressure to the older players to keep their game up to standard.
“As a pack we’ve played a couple of games together now so we are starting to gel and we are looking to improve on every performance.”
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Eben ready to grind
Sport24
Etzebeth ready to floor Oz


2012-09-28 07:45


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Eben Etzebeth (Gallo Images)

Cape Town - Springbok lock Eben Etzebeth is eager to overpower the Wallabies at Loftus Versfeld when he returns after a suspension.

The 20-year-old missed the last Rugby Championship Test against the All Blacks in Dunedin after being suspended for head-butting Wallaby skipper Nathan Sharpe in Perth on September 8. That was his sixth Test in a row since he made his debut against England in June.

The Stormers enforcer told Beeld of his frustration at watching his fellow team-mates from a distance on television. "It was hard watching the guys go onto the field knowing I'm not there to help," he said. "It wasn't nice but they (SANZAR) made their decision and unfortunately I couldn't play. You just try to put it behind you and learn from it to hopefully not make the same mistake again."

With the head-butt episode now firmly behind him, the youngster is eager to show his worth on Saturday, where he'll again come face-to-face with Sharpe.

"It's always only about winning. In order to pull the Springbok jersey over your head, you always have to be hungry. It doesn't matter against who or where you play. I want to play better every week and I'm never satisfied.

"I want to cross the advantage line more regularly. And I want to tackle more guys backwards," he warned.

And Etzebeth will get his chance to do just that come 17:00 on Saturday...
 

Scoey

Tony Shaw (54)
I like the training aid they've got Eben wearing there PB. Genius! I take it the little bit that comes off his forehead allows him to better judge the distance he needs to keep his forehead off opposition players faces. :D So simple, yet so effective!
 
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