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I’d be very happy with a system going forward that starts with domestic comps, then TT in some form. But I don’t see any reason to drop Super Au.

Have a look at 8:05 again and tell me what you think. I’m finding it hard to blame FF (Folau Fainga'a) o this one. Things like 23:45 completely FF (Folau Fainga'a).

Really? If they were down to play a B team for reasons outside their control with minimal game time, nominal training possible and the Boks firing up after a couple of successful hard hitting tests? I admire your confidence on this matter.

It’s a sad article, Blue, certainly fleshes out background. There is an error though in the lateness of the call - which is not actually made yet. Definitely to create problems as we go forward should it pan out as a no show.

Hoping journalistic enthusiasm has confused “don’t know if we are going” with “Springboks, what Springboks?”

I had meant to say I’m happy for corrections. Yes that one. 5 man line out attacking from outside the 25. Set up from #1 to #5 is Tupou, Samu, Philip, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Slipper. At the throw “let’s dance”. > Philip and LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) swap. >Tupou loops around to #3 - lift position for Philip > Samu pushes back as...

Yes, but other times as well. I think they conceded where a maul was likely or defending a 4 man. Outside of that they seemed to set for a challenge for a front throw but let it go if it went to the back.

Others would say the Force comp with 5 (Australia) or they comp with 6 (New Zealand). Agree on the simple equation.

Mix and match I think. A lot to do with location on the field as well.

Mea culpa on Samu. Edit: also should add on re-watching just what a powerhouse game Philip gave. I’m still “jury is out” on Banks.

How likely for 2021? I definitely think RA need Force more than Force need RA. Though on both sides of the equation it is not a black and white polemic. Barring matters unknown, logic suggests Force will return to Super Au with a building relationship with RA. Part of that relationship is...

Don’t understand it, don’t see why those things would be mutually exclusive, but fair enough.

Inspired by BH I took a closer look at the line outs. 1st half only: WB throws. 0:40 Throw good to Philip at #2. Lift not quite perfect. WON. 6:05 Throw good to LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) at #4. Lift good. Solid l/o. WON. 8:05 Throw adequate (?) to Philip at #4. Poor lift. Telegraphed to opposition...

read somewhere on FB the two key concerns are Whitelock and Barrett. Mo’unga fine. For me Wilson tackle at ~24:20 was clearly late, clearly a penalty and clearly non-card. To Mounga’s credit he was quick to his feet not showing he was fine. He had already taken a heavy double tackle with...

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+1 Lets just keep them in Super Au, yeah?

The answer to that is very clearly a commercial call. Which puts RA in the box seat. But does little to impact what and how the WF recruit. Honestly, these discussions sometimes need a little reality leaking through the cracks.

I wouldn’t think that RA have a lot of strength in negotiation. Do you feel ready for a 4 team Super Au 21?

There comes a time when you’re overdoing it, Ulrich.

I always liked Plumtree but he is being a drop kick here. Cheika style clown. https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/14/all-blacks-take-aim-at-wallabies-over-tactics-in-bledisloe-cup-2020