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Not all of us hate him.

It's the nature of the Internet that every punter with a couch and a TV has an opinion. Long may it continue.

All of us? Speak for yourself. The dislike of Deans wasn't any more universal than the current upwelling of unease with MacKenzie is.

Deans' selection of JOC (James O'Connor) at 10 was wrong but it wasn't stupid. He thought JOC (James O'Connor) was our long-term 10. Considering that many pundits thought he was our long-term 12 (including many posters on here) and should have been tried there much sooner, it can hardly be considered as stupid. He might have...

If those rules applied to discussing selections, we'd never discuss selections, because none of us qualify. And yet we do discuss selections, because that's why we're here.

Yes. Except for the bizarre center pairing it's a very good team.

Link's selections are at least as bizarre as Deans'.

Why? They're both excellent players in those positions.

3. Moore 2. Folau 1. Cooper

Ryan is probably the starchiest player on the bench.

The weather channel shows a 0% change of precipitation. Good. GO WALLABIES.

That Australian backline 10-15. Sadly, Genia's a bunny now.

How are Italy lowly ranked? They beat France and Ireland in this year's 6n. The day of complacently sneering at them are long past.

Nonsense. We're currently missing a number of first choice players who would easily start for most national teams. Last year we were missing 14 first choice players for most of the year. Key players only means Macaw and Carter to you Kiwis, or crypto-Kiwis, whichever you are.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I spoke to Phil Waugh (of all people) afterwards and he said that what came out of it was strong desire by the playing group to play good attacking rugby that was enjoyed by the fans. I believed him and still do. But change takes time.

And now things are different. Making a move like that and expecting instant change is pure public relations voodoo. Maybe one of the reasons it was so widely criticised in the media is that's exactly how a lot of people think: the magic wand school of bandaid analysis.

I agree completely. The Waratah fan forum was the catalyst that turned the Waratahs round IMO: a very good piece of management. It got disaffected fans engaged in far greater numbers than attended it, even if they only engaged initially to make criticisms, and it planted a seed for how fans...

Absolutely. And we seem to either suffer from it more than other nations, or have less depth, or both. It does seem like we lose many more of our key players.

I agree with Dumbledore. Link manages the Wallabies, not us. If we're talking management here, then businesses frequently have to explain to the market what they're doing when things go wrong, in order to retain its confidence. The market is us. Avoiding that because you fear your authority over...

Adding Higginbotham, Palu, Pocock and Nau to this group will make a huge difference. Simmons and Fardy as locks, or Horwill back in form. Robinson plus some lump as props. Nau and Moore alternating as before. Now we have a good pack, and no need to build again from scratch.