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Reckon that might be him done then. Good bloke by all accounts, but he's not the same level of player as the others we've got. That's excellent wing depth now. I wouldn't have a problem with any two of these five starting. English, Kingston, Shipperly, Veianu, Crawford.

Huh. I've never really rated Shipperly, but he's certainly a solid Soup player. We're building a pretty damn big backline here. Big and quick. Few players to cut now though. Are English, Mitchell, Veianu and Kingston's contracts confirmed? Reckon there's a decent chance Harris was signed...

Not sure we're in a worse place exactly. Just a different, equally bad, place. The attack has been completely unacceptable this year. We've either the lowest, or second lowest, points scored in the entire competition. Pretty striking comparison to last year when I think the only team that...

Yep. The vast majority of the crowd was watching paper planes being thrown onto the ground in the last 20. Exactly the sort of game that had the Deans haters frothing. Maybe it was better on tv, but it was almost unwatchable at the ground.

The worst game of rugby I've had the misfortune to watch in years.

How did we get our hands on Placid? Brilliant bit of recruiting. Also a pretty good indication that the Reds are after one, or both, of Hunt and JOC (James O'Connor).

PAE has shown quite a bit of improvement this year. Looks very solid come scrum time. That kid Alalaatoa (sp?) looks like he's got a bit about him as well.

Ah fair. Seriously though, go back a season and have a look at how he was playing. He was hitting a truckload of rucks, largely because he was the only player who could be bothered. This year, his tackle numbers are way down - and I reckon the ruck ones would be too - while his carries and...

This is the first year Jones has played with anything resembling width. Anyone who's even paid cursory attention to him over the last couple of years could tell you that criticising him for not doing the 'unglamorous' work is completely ridiculous. Clearly under coaching instruction he starts...

I just thought it was a cheap crack is all. Obviously he's not in the box seat to be casting judgement, but having a go at him as regards his personal demons is pretty meh IMO. That said, I've been drinking since four so probably not in the place to be throwing out moral judgements.

Yeah... Implying alcoholism is a choice. Outstanding hot take.

I reckon is Palu starts we'll see Higgers on the bench as a change of pace type reserve. McCalman has been the better player over the course of the season, but I reckon he might be seen either as a starter or not in the 23.

Five locks is a surprise. As is To'omua at 12. McCabe and Horne seen as back-three players is interesting. That's a slow but strong backline in the making. Reminds me of the All Blacks in the last WC.

I will completely lose my shit if Jones doesn't get picked.

This has come up a few times on here. The reality is we don't have access to the sort of statistics and metrics that can definitively prove a case one way or the other. And even if we did have them, the eye test still has a huge role to play.

... I've been trying to forget about him. I reckon he gets cut at the end of the year. Sure he's a nice guy, but he's just not up to Soup rugby at the moment. He's exactly the sort of player who needs the NRC.

I wouldn't have Hook starting over anyone we've currently got. Next year if Ellison goes put English or Kingston to centre and give Veainu a proper run on the wing. We'll be fine. We really, really, don't need a utility back.

So now you're fine to go after the eyes as long as you don't draw blood and/or actually pull an eye out. Terrible precedent.

Overrated flake who's okay at a few positions and good at none. Barnes over him in a heartbeat.

JUSTICE 4 ED. Time to get the armbands out boys.