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Dru, Bar, BH Just to add a tad to your discussions. The lack of planning and consultation between the major stakeholders in Australia is somewhat scary. Any successful alternative to Super Rugby needs lots of planning lots of discussions and lots of input. I have always said it will take four years...

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BH Agree with you, and yes current streaming issues are at certain prices, but that is within the context of today, FTA, subscription, streaming world where streaming services by and large pay little compared to subscription service providers like Fox. I think there is considerable change...

half said: ↑ cyclopath My bad, also reduces broadcast costs by half as well. BH & Rebel My subscription number of 2 million, OK Europe, USA, Asia, Australia, NZ, SA. With the lower cost as only 90 games we can charge $ 35.00 for a years subscription. BH Lets acknowledge posters on...

cyclopath My bad, also reduces broadcast costs by half as well. BH & Rebel My subscription number of 2 million, OK Europe, USA, Asia, Australia, NZ, SA. With the lower cost as only 90 games we can charge $ 35.00 for a years subscription.

Let me start this post with an apology to those in say the “”status que”” who I have termed apologist or similar names often worst. Especially outside this forum I can be quite vocal, and in some rugby circles I am considered a serial pest I think. That said I would argue I have been right...

In my wild erratic fancy visions come to me of 9 east coast teams, plus Perth. With 11 home games to help pay the bills and travel bills maybe 10% of current cost. And I somehow fancy that I’d like to change Super Rugby, to a local domestic competition as the seasons come and go.

I have my own thoughts on what plan "B" is. As I have mentioned a few times my plan "B" is we lack capital, business & government contacts, business savvy generally, and sponsorship / advertisers. Meaning as I see it, creating a competition within Australia, established by RA and licensed...

From kiap post 12288 Ratings Aust ==== 4.236 million NZ ===== 10.352 million SA ===== 26.625 million Arg ===== 0.608 million Jap ===== 0.739 million Eup ===== 7.500 million Totalling ====== 50.06 million Less SA & Eup == 34.125 million Leaving 15.935 million with Jap & Arg rating lucky to...

Cyclopath I am almost scared to post this, given the responses about my use of soccer and AFL in particular in my examples as well as other sports at times. The tenor of my arguments centres around two core issues. First decades of miss management. Second this miss management has been used...

Cyclopath I find your response still is one that is demanding proof. You question another soccer reference implying I am not sure what, but I am sure to some it means something. To me soccer is the most obvious code to compare ourselves too. Both have been around a long time in Australia...

OK have it your way, lets ignore whats happening around us and wait for someone to come up with a guarantee what they plan to do will work. I think, no I know I see the world totally differently to many in the rugby world. No offence meant by this but you seem to want some sorta guarantee...

^^^ Cyclopath First of all I have total faith and belief in rugby as a sport. I assume my beliefs are not so way out that many others feel the same. Where will the investors come from. Some history from roughly 1990 to early 2000's the then National Soccer League went steadily backwards...

I think you are wrong in your assessment. My belief is after years of arguing, most agree we need some form of local domestic competition. There are two issues as I see it in developing a local domestic competition. First issue is you need a leadership who also accept the need for a local...

Hoggy Nail head, issue is no one at either RA or state union leadership has the ability to do anything other than hold out their hand. No ones how to build and develop a national domestic competition.

^^^^^ Reds I am going almost from memory of the article I read about two years ago and recently this year the AFL in Brisbane have also complained. Issue is and I do need help as I know little bits only. Over 5K crowd the QLD gov applies some kinda sporting transport tax per seat sold for...

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Stew I read some time ago the break even crowd numbers for stadium hire costs and Suncorp I think [going from memory] was about 12K & Alliance was about 10K. Does anyone know what the stadium break even costs are re crowd numbers.

HMMMMMMM does that look like 1 in 5 seats full.

Warning warning warning, if blue swearing offend don't listen. Gotta be the Force run on song. Its an Irish band and only the Irish could get away with this, the second verse maybe insert Mr Cameron's name. Warning warning lots and lots and lots of blue swearing, don't listen if that will...