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is it any worse than the endless need for clarkie to give us reams of previous game stats? Shit, I don't care to know that in twenty seven of the previous forty nine games there were fourteen occasions when the ball was passed five times every four turnovers per match under this particular referee.

was probably a kangaroo.

well, not having a betfair account so completely ignorant, just out of curiosity can you explain how this works and why it is a better strategy? man, the things we resort to to waste the waiting time!

sadly you are probably right, will likely turn out to be a one horse race. Just imagine if...

don't get the hump mxy, again, is that single frame the sole piece of evidence? It was, and remains, a genuine question. For starters, it is clear from that single frame that he was NOT, in fact, 'grabbing his arse'. Is it a still from a sequence that might show he brushed his arse as his hand...

is this provocation based on that STILL with his hand on his bum? (serious question) if so, to determine intent we need to see before and after. Crikey, that hardly falls into the category (the STILL) of grabbing someones genitalia. And, let's be honest, another man 'touching your buttocks'...

ain't it great that a topic like this can be discussed in such a friendly, constructive and illustrative manner in this forum? Imagine the crap if it were held elsewhere. I mean, as a topic it is not that important, but I can't help but wonder how it would go if we were trying to have this...

for a closet leaguie papa bear, you are the voice of reason! (my only beef with the league media is the twisting of facts, ref HJs post a page or two back) I however can't quite grasp your point re Kepus offload. I simply don't see how 'gaining an additional skill' is proof of homogenisation...

yeah, was going to say the same thing but accidentally pressed like instead of quote. I'm all for analogies, but they gotta work!:) Yes, on the number of tries. Another example of how 'comparing scores between codes' does not work in the slightest. They are completely different games...

ahh, thanks. At least it was obscure enough (ie not obvious) that I don't have to call myself that.

sorry, I've seen it many times now in the thread but for the life of me I can't work it out. Who or what is CH?

thanks ant, and maybe (based on your recommendation) I WILL have a look. On your 'closeness' point, well yes, any game (including tiddleywinks) can be close, exciting and on the edge within the parameters of the game itself. It is a bit of stretch to go from that to endorsing the sport in...

Yes and No. I most certainly acknowledge that you are being 'fair and reasonable minded' about the bias, so well done. Have not seen the grand final, and doubt I will, but I would be quite surprised if I found it was great. (I would certainly acknowledge if I DID find it great however) On...

just saw NQ won the game, and it seems ALL of HJs points of mungo describing a mungo game were very evident. Well done sir! Anyhows, in the match report these few lines grabbed my attention The Broncos made 318 tackles and missed 13, a 96 per cent completion rate. That is almost unheard of...

well we can assume he knew how to get out of the pool.

wake up early, watch the game, then a few replays of t'other games, then the replay of this game again. what? I died and gone to heaven? Am I the only one who ended up feeling our defense held thru luck more often than not? On any other day the result could have been very different indeed I...

It is such a warning he had to use a microphone!

shit taste in music is the story?

just saw the replay, but did not see the 'other players gesturing to burgess where to stand' that some have talked about. Did I just miss it (again) or was it something you had to be at the ground to see? Yep IS, I am sure that the concept of a tackle ending play (in league) can be a hard one...