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Surely yes. The biggest area of concern I have is that the now established players are not getting better. McDermott, Wilson, McReight, Petaia, Daugunu, Fa'agase, etc have all been around quite a while and whilst they're still massive talents they haven't matured like many of us would have...

He probably does. I was referring to the last 10 months or so, including this match so far.

These players deserve better coaching

Ben Mowen and Stephen Moore were legitimately established as super quality. Moore had played for the Wallabies already but took it another level higher.

That would be commensurate with his standing as player of the year but it would be interesting to know how involved Jones was the pricing.

I must confess pavlovian was my exact response and so I went straight there for dinner. Sorry Reg.

It's a huge ask to come out of Tupou's shadow to be sure. I can see it being too large a mountain but I would love him to prove me wrong.

I actually think a lot will hinge on 3. A lot of pressure on Nonggorr as he's not had a whole lot of game time at this level. He's got the size and talent so hopefully he kicks on.

Aside from not playing at Auckland that is a very unfavourable set of stadiums in terms of historical results.

I think that might come down to the depth of what can be revealed in F1. Tennis is, at the end of the day, a guy or girl with a stick against a guy or girl with a stick. A ball is also involved. A Tennis player's personality is also usually pretty self evident.

I often think Petaia is best on D and in high pressure situations where he's forced to do the safer option as best he can. In open attack he often seems to want to be that amazing spark. In saying that I also think our expectations of him are very high for such a young man still growing into...

I don't think Tupou is in too many categories with Lolesio or Swain. If he fizzles out on the world stage it will probably be because of injury and even then he'd still be remembered as one of our most destructive props ever. The other two have some potential but are a long way away.

I'd agree with Quade and Kerevi but that leaves Koroibete out which seems like an impossibility in a world cup year, further inclining me to believe this won't happen.

This is Schroedinger's forum given the current and likely to continue uncertainty of many, many, coaching positions. Refraining from discussing any and all possibilities is equally as pointless as musing about them.

Reminder that whilst our Hooker's performance has fallen off a cliff they have played very well at test level previously. I have to say though given Fainga'a has had periods of unreliability in the past I'm now of the mind that Porecki is a better candidate to persist with. He was very strong...

Even better

Nah fuck southerners it should be as hot as possible

You don't like 300 stoppages a game, absolutely no contest other than gain, and 99% predictability of set structure?

They will 100% need to be heavily load managed through next year and I think they are important enough to warrant some security in terms of their squad positions.

Some lesser heralded performances for mine: 1. Robertson - got attacked early at the scrum but composed himself and finished out the game very very well. Much more dynamic around the park than he was earlier on his career, great to see that development. 2. Petaia - he is just so safe in the air...