Where to for Super Rugby?

[Adam84]

Super 8(Champions League) concept example, they want to sell the package to a host city within the Australasia timezone, Japan is the obvious country in mind with this concept.. I like it, it could be a real smorgasboard of rugby.

 

[Dctarget]

I wasn't following Rugby before the Force were involved but what was the player exodus like back then? Were the Skeltons, Kerevis, McMahons of early 2000s playing overseas already? Or has the player drain started much more recently. If so, why? Did UK + France not pay as much in those days?

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Super 8(Champions League) concept example, they want to sell the package to a host city within the Australasia timezone, Japan is the obvious country in mind with this concept.. I like it, it could be a real smorgasboard of rugby.

I definitely prefer the first option over the 2nd and quite like the idea of hosting it on our timezone and would be fine if it was hosted in one location.

 

[dru]

I definitely prefer the first option over the 2nd and quite like the idea of hosting it on our timezone and would be fine if it was hosted in one location.

+1.

Don't mind if that location rotates, or Nations bid for it or whatever.

 

[Derpus]

Super 8(Champions League) concept example, they want to sell the package to a host city within the Australasia timezone, Japan is the obvious country in mind with this concept.. I like it, it could be a real smorgasboard of rugby.

Really like that idea.

 

[hifflepiff]

Super 8(Champions League) concept example, they want to sell the package to a host city within the Australasia timezone, Japan is the obvious country in mind with this concept.. I like it, it could be a real smorgasboard of rugby.

I really like the concept, but they're dreaming if they think the Jaguares or Sunwolves will be involved, and I have to believe Rugby Australia know this.

Japan's team will be the champion of their new domestic competition, which seems pretty straight forward.

As for Argentina I have no idea, all the Jaguares players have signed overseas. Maybe the champion of SLAR, if that gets up and running?

 

[barbarian]

I wasn't following Rugby before the Force were involved but what was the player exodus like back then? Were the Skeltons, Kerevis, McMahons of early 2000s playing overseas already? Or has the player drain started much more recently. If so, why? Did UK + France not pay as much in those days?

From memory there was drain but the vast majority were players who had 'done their time' and were seeking a few years sipping red wine in the south of France. Certainly not guys in the prime of their Wallaby careers like McMahon.

 

[Number 7]

From memory there was drain but the vast majority were players who had 'done their time' and were seeking a few years sipping red wine in the south of France. Certainly not guys in the prime of their Wallaby careers like McMahon.

Yep. Guys like Campese, Kafer, Lynagh and Pat Howard all spent time in the UK or Italy collecting their Euro/Pound pensions pre-retirement. FitzSimons was the first foreign player to ever play for Brive and spent his time writing a pretty s**t book about it.

 

[qwerty51]

Early 000s you're talking about just recently professional. Guys in Italy, France were getting paid before officially professionalism but it wasn't much (just more than here).

So no France/UK weren't paying as much as here then but with millionaire owners and massive pay TV deals they're killed us in terms of revenue since then.

 

[Dctarget]

Early 000s you're talking about just recently professional. Guys in Italy, France were getting paid before officially professionalism but it wasn't much (just more than here).

So no France/UK weren't paying as much as here then but with millionaire owners and massive pay TV deals they're killed us in terms of revenue since then.

So, why do people think that we'll go better with only three teams? Is the logic that each team will have a greater amount of the pie to pay wages that compete with overseas?

 

[qwerty51]

Those people are in the very very minority I feel. There's no solid logic to it, just based off historical success when we had 3 and Ben Darwin's cohesion theory. 3 teams means less revenue so whilst there's less players to pay the pay off would be the same whilst reducing the depth and most importantly, the young talent coming through.

 

[kiap]

I really like the concept, but they're dreaming if they think the Jaguares or Sunwolves will be involved, and I have to believe Rugby Australia know this.

Yeah, it's ticking the boxes to maintain relationships which makes sense. Super will have to undergo changes and reduce scope, but there's still a need to co-operate particularly on tests and the like.

 

[Dctarget]

Those people are in the very very minority I feel. There's no solid logic to it, just based off historical success when we had 3 and Ben Darwin's cohesion theory. 3 teams means less revenue so whilst there's less players to pay the pay off would be the same whilst reducing the depth and most importantly, the young talent coming through.

Yeah, I was listening to Lote Tuqiri on the Rugby Ruckus podcast and he advocated for three teams. Don't know how much he's thought about it. Interesting because it seems like a lot of former players are the ones bandying it around.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Those people are in the very very minority I feel. There's no solid logic to it, just based off historical success when we had 3 and Ben Darwin's cohesion theory. 3 teams means less revenue so whilst there's less players to pay the pay off would be the same whilst reducing the depth and most importantly, the young talent coming through.

The argument that could be made is that with three highly competitive and in theory successful sides more people would tune int and help raise the value. But it's not necessarily backed up by much evidence.

 

[dru]

So, why do people think that we'll go better with only three teams? Is the logic that each team will have a greater amount of the pie to pay wages that compete with overseas?

Bigger piece of a smaller pie.

 

[dru]

The argument that could be made is that with three highly competitive and in theory successful sides more people would tune int and help raise the value. But it's not necessarily backed up by much evidence.

How good is turning on great Australian rugby at 7:00 pm on Friday. And Saturday. Always. No thinking, the rugby is just on.

Cut to three teams to lose this.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

How good is turning on great Australian rugby at 7:00 pm on Friday. And Saturday. Always. No thinking, the rugby is just on.

Cut to three teams to lose this.

After watching Super Rugby Au I really couldn't imagine cutting any of our teams. I really want to see the Drua get involved next year so we have an extra game to watch.

 

[Derpus]

After watching Super Rugby Au I really couldn't imagine cutting any of our teams. I really want to see the Drua get involved next year so we have an extra game to watch.

3pm sunday arvo plz

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

I really like the concept, but they're dreaming if they think the Jaguares or Sunwolves will be involved, and I have to believe Rugby Australia know this.

Japan's team will be the champion of their new domestic competition, which seems pretty straight forward.

As for Argentina I have no idea, all the Jaguares players have signed overseas. Maybe the champion of SLAR, if that gets up and running?

SLAR got up and running this year but Covid intervened. Was was pretty good to watch.

 

[sendit]

3pm sunday arvo plz

wish there was a dislike button, sunday arvo games are gross