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Where to for Super Rugby?

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dru

David Wilson (68)
I don't get how they are going to improve the capability of the SA teams on so little extra money. 6 million a year extra is only 3 million per team and it isn't like they draw big crowds. I know it is extra mone at the moment but surely will have a negative impact on super rugby in the next deal.

I read the figures differently. Currently the League gets 12M pounds or 1M per team. This goes to 1.5M pounds with the SA deal. Call it $Aus2.6M.

I always understood that the Euro teams make much of their funding from gate receipts. The Cheetahs are not very strong on that point and it is hard to see massive improvements at the Kings - though time will tell.

Another agreement is that the Cheetahs/Kings improve their playing stocks. In which case SARU have may have agreed to self conflicting requirements of improving the average player stocks to both SANZAAR and Pro14.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
You know what Rugby in Australia needs. A big fuckoff draft. Every player contracted to a super team goes in the pot, then we have a live "Hunger Games" style draft night. Maybe we don't make the kids fight, but we at least all sit around drinking beer watching the head coaches make their selections live on TV. They can throw shade on each other and hopefully a few players cry when they realise they've been selected by Daryl.

Ok maybe it's a bad idea, but fuck it would be more fun than the general malaise I feel for Super Rugby at the moment.
May as well.
Perhaps it should be random (lotto like), though: the Tahs routinely get flogged by players they either actively or ignorantly overlooked so they have no real clue who to recruit and their multiple marquee players underperform with, as Rex mossop would have said, "monotonous regularity".
The problem is that the force and brumbies would out select the rest if it wasn't done by lottery.
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
May as well.
Perhaps it should be random (lotto like), though: the Tahs routinely get flogged by players they either actively or ignorantly overlooked so they have no real clue who to recruit and their multiple marquee players underperform with, as Rex mossop would have said, "monotonous regularity".
The problem is that the force and brumbies would out select the rest if it wasn't done by lottery.

I agree to this draft, but I vote we throw everyone in. Coaches and recruitment are done in a lottery 7 days before the draft.

1) Get a second night of beers in front of the TV.

2) Will really level the playing field giving them a week to work out there squad ideas. (We are Marshall kind of style, and if you have not seen "We are Marshall" get it now)
 

James Pettifer

Jim Clark (26)
I read the figures differently. Currently the League gets 12M pounds or 1M per team. This goes to 1.5M pounds with the SA deal. Call it $Aus2.6M.

I always understood that the Euro teams make much of their funding from gate receipts. The Cheetahs are not very strong on that point and it is hard to see massive improvements at the Kings - though time will tell.

Another agreement is that the Cheetahs/Kings improve their playing stocks. In which case SARU have may have agreed to self conflicting requirements of improving the average player stocks to both SANZAAR and Pro14.


But the result is still the same - basically the teams are going to get bugger all from the broadcasters. Expenses are going to be high and neither the Cheetahs or Kings have large crowds (and I doubt it is going to be any more than their current crowds). So basically, there will be an influx of $5.2 million into the coffers for a couple of years (less any extra expenses) until the SuperRugby broadcast rights are redone.

And then they need to work out how to improve the playing stocks in both competitions. I just can't see how it is going to work in practice.
 
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Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I agree to this draft, but I vote we throw everyone in. Coaches and recruitment are done in a lottery 7 days before the draft.

1) Get a second night of beers in front of the TV.

2) Will really level the playing field giving them a week to work out there squad ideas. (We are Marshall kind of style, and if you have not seen "We are Marshall" get it now)

how about we throw in the administrators draft the week before?
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
But would be the one away game a year I'd make sure I attend. Escape Melbourne winter for a week on the beach and a rugby game.

Dont get me wrong I think - subject to their European players being available - it would be great on almost all levels except travel and, therefore, costs.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Only for Aus and NZ - if its a plan post SA and ARG involvement then the only problem is Fiji's European players.


I think they could be operating on the assumption that SA (and potentially Arg as I tend to think the timezones are better for them) moving north on mass at the end of the current deal is a distinct possibility and are look at the alternatives in which Fiji could offer a reasonably strong one providing they have the time to prepare and hopefully attract much of their European based talent back to the Islands.
 

Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
It'd basically be the Fiji Warriors with the ability to bring back a small handful of European based players who aren't on the mega deals I think.

Couldn't possibly see, for example, Ravai, Nakarawa, or Nayacalevu coming back with the sheer amounts they're raking in.

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WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
It'd basically be the Fiji Warriors with the ability to bring back a small handful of European based players who aren't on the mega deals I think.

Couldn't possibly see, for example, Ravai, Nakarawa, or Nayacalevu coming back with the sheer amounts they're raking in.

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Yeah, it's unlikely that the likes of the above would return. But you never know. The allure of being to live at home and earn good living might draw them back. But regardless even if you managed to get 50% of them back to the Islands mixed with newly professionalised Warriors players they'd be a solid addition.
 

Tex

Greg Davis (50)
If I had his ludicrous amount of money, (over $6 billion), I reckon I'd have lots of fun investing $2 billion in trying to fix Rugby in Australia. If the ARU don't want to play ball, then you'd just Packer them.

Twiggy might be a bit short this year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-...ve-title-determination-twiggy-forrest/8727140

The Federal Court has recognised an exclusive native title claim over land on which Fortescue Metals Group's $280 billion Solomon mine sits in WA's ore-rich Pilbara region, potentially allowing the group to sue Andrew Forrest's company for millions of dollars in compensation.

Tbh it wouldn't touch the sides of his operation.
 

Killer

Cyril Towers (30)
Twiggy might be a bit short this year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-...ve-title-determination-twiggy-forrest/8727140

The Federal Court has recognised an exclusive native title claim over land on which Fortescue Metals Group's $280 billion Solomon mine sits in WA's ore-rich Pilbara region, potentially allowing the group to sue Andrew Forrest's company for millions of dollars in compensation.

Tbh it wouldn't touch the sides of his operation.


Yeah small bikkies.
O&G Company lawyers I know always go on about how little they have to pay and how much more the the companies are prepared to pay but never need to.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
how about we throw in the administrators draft the week before?

I'm thinking something like this (I assume that Spetre is still in business). Take all NSWRU, QRU and ARU board members to ANZ Stadium and let spectre rip; exploding chairs, shark filled pools, trapdoors out of zepellins, the possiblities are endless. It would be far more entertaining that any super rugby game involving Australian sides.

 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Twiggy might be a bit short this year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-...ve-title-determination-twiggy-forrest/8727140

The Federal Court has recognised an exclusive native title claim over land on which Fortescue Metals Group's $280 billion Solomon mine sits in WA's ore-rich Pilbara region, potentially allowing the group to sue Andrew Forrest's company for millions of dollars in compensation.

Tbh it wouldn't touch the sides of his operation.


Good news though...........
 
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