Where to for Super Rugby?

[stoff]

Apparently today marks 100 days since the 48-72 hour announcement.


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[Leo86]

Apparently today marks 100 days since the 48-72 hour announcement.


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Honestly what were they thinking

Delusional

 

[James Pettifer]

Honestly what were they thinking

Delusional

Maybe they meant weeks?

 

[Brumby Runner]

We have been around this particular circle a few times. Yes indeed, a domestic competition based around the SS would mean some wins and losses.


The shitstorm that has erupted over the Soup machinations would pale into insignficance in comparison, believe me.


Too many selfish interests and not enough public interest. This is a toxic combination. Unless we can either get the selfishness out, or the public interest up, we are doomed.


Maybe as we breathe our last we will finally decide to make some sacrifices. But, frankly, I doubt it. We are just too farking stupid.

Wamb, you've nailed it on this occasion. Imagine trying to cull up to 6 or more existing SS sides to establish a national competition. Would make the ARU's attempts to cull one side look like a walk in the park.

 

[FiveStarStu]

But how many other rugby interested billionaires do you know that may possibly be approached down the track to help the game. As far as I know he is it, other than maybe Stokes, also over here whom used to play for Nedlands.

The other thing I would point out is that, given the appalling way the ARU have treated private Super Rugby ownership as an investment option so far, it'd be a pretty ballsy move for Forrest to put money into the system unless he saw it/could play it purely as philanthropy.

 

[Tex]

The other thing I would point out is that, given the appalling way the ARU have treated private Super Rugby ownership as an investment option so far, it'd be a pretty ballsy move for Forrest to put money into the system unless he saw it/could play it purely as philanthropy.

He's got form. Loves a high profile tax deduction!

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...story-with-huge-donation-20170521-gw9rhk.html

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

He's got form. Loves a high profile tax deduction!

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...story-with-huge-donation-20170521-gw9rhk.html

As I've suggested previously if both Forrest and Coz are willing to foot the entire costs of running both the Force and Rebels then I honestly wouldn't begrudge either of them the tax break on their losses.

It would be a win/win as far as I am concerned. The ARU gets to redirect funds to talent I'd and retention and alongside as previously unrestricted recruitment boundaries Coz and Forrest save a bit on tax.

 

[Tex]

WCR, I agree. I'm being a bit cynical and churlish - at the end of the day, if a wealthy member of the community digs into their pocket and supports an expensive cause close to people's hearts, then it really shouldn't matter if they do it with all the media bells and whistles ala Twiggy, or if they donate quietly via foundations.

It's all good, as long as it doesn't leave a gaping black hole if the interest wanes.

 

[James Pettifer]

The other thing I would point out is that, given the appalling way the ARU have treated private Super Rugby ownership as an investment option so far, it'd be a pretty ballsy move for Forrest to put money into the system unless he saw it/could play it purely as philanthropy.

If I had his ludicrous amount of money, (over $6 billion), I reckon I'd have lots of fun investing $2 billion in trying to fix Rugby in Australia. If the ARU don't want to play ball, then you'd just Packer them.

 

[Killer]

If I had his ludicrous amount of money, (over $6 billion), I reckon I'd have lots of fun investing $2 billion in trying to fix Rugby in Australia. If the ARU don't want to play ball, then you'd just Packer them.

He wouldn't even need to.
The ARU is potentially a money making machine, you just need to invest wisely in the future.
The ARU just needs a benevolent dictator such as Lowy who will maintain direction and have the ability to cover any short term shortfall until the system is self sustaining.
As Jones says, where has the 770mil the ARU has spent in the last decade gone?

 

[Braveheart81]

As Jones says, where has the 770mil the ARU has spent in the last decade gone?

This is such a rubbish and meaningless comment.

The reality is that most of it goes to running the professional game in Australia. Around 30% goes to paying the professional players (including 7s) and that figure goes up to probably 50% when the overall running costs of the Wallabies, Super Rugby and 7s is totalled up. 10% or so is spent on matchday operations and similar which is a direct cost of producing the bulk of the game's revenue. 15% goes on the corporate side of the administration, rent etc.

 

[Tex]

He wouldn't even need to.
The ARU is potentially a money making machine, you just need to invest wisely in the future.
The ARU just needs a benevolent dictator such as Lowy who will maintain direction and have the ability to cover any short term shortfall until the system is self sustaining.
As Jones says, where has the 770mil the ARU has spent in the last decade gone?

It's probably supported the lives of many starving residential property developers, orthodontists and restaurateurs in Sydney's east.

 

[Slim 293]

This is such a rubbish and meaningless comment.

The reality is that most of it goes to running the professional game in Australia. Around 30% goes to paying the professional players (including 7s) and that figure goes up to probably 50% when the overall running costs of the Wallabies, Super Rugby and 7s is totalled up. 10% or so is spent on matchday operations and similar which is a direct cost of producing the bulk of the game's revenue. 15% goes on the corporate side of the administration, rent etc.

Don't forget they've been paying off the east coast media for the last 20 years........

 

[half]

Question from a RL client of mine today.

I gotta say it has thrown me and I had no answer.

His question was.

Can Union survive in anywhere near it current standing, if you have another year with so little direction?

Over to the forum, what will we look like in 12 months if the next 12 months is similar to the last 12 months.

 

[wamberal]

Have you asked him why he prefers RL? That might give you a hint as to what will happen.

 

[dru]

Question from a RL client of mine today.

I gotta say it has thrown me and I had no answer.

His question was.

Can Union survive in anywhere near it current standing, if you have another year with so little direction?

Over to the forum, what will we look like in 12 months if the next 12 months is similar to the last 12 months.

Our standing right now is nothing like it was 12 months ago. Noting that it wasn't too hot then either.

My question is what is there to suggest this slide wont continue? Logic dictates that sooner or later that sort of decline must self implode. It's "when" not "if".

 

[FiveStarStu]

Over to the forum, what will we look like in 12 months if the next 12 months is similar to the last 12 months.

If the ARU is successful in cutting a team but on-field doesn't improve, it's game over this time next year.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

If the ARU is successful in cutting a team but on-field doesn't improve, it's game over this time next year.

Pretty much.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

got my hopes up

 

[wamberal]

If I had his ludicrous amount of money, (over $6 billion), I reckon I'd have lots of fun investing $2 billion in trying to fix Rugby in Australia. If the ARU don't want to play ball, then you'd just Packer them.

Sadly enough, the very rich do not do things like that. That's why they are very rich. Although there are a couple of exceptions. Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett for example.


I have known a few rich people. I think it is fair to say that you have to be an unhappy person to want to become rich, because of the sacrifices that are required.


And if by some fluke a normal kind of person becomes rich, they usually become unhappy. They lose friends, if they ever had any, relationships break down, etc etc.