What is wrong with the Tahs

[tranquility]

Nothing wrong with the Tahs. If they have problems the Reds have bigger problems.

Very cryptic... struggling to make the connection however?

 

[I like to watch]

Sorry, a 29 y/o who played 1 game the prior year, and about to play RWC , when the medical staff knew his hammies were 60%.
Funnily enough there was only one franchise interested

 

[The Red Baron]

It all might become apparent when we take possession of Richard Graham.......

 

[AlexH]

Nothing wrong with the Tahs. If they have problems the Reds have bigger problems.

Care to expand on that remark?

 

[waratahjesus]

WaratahJesus, stop drinking the Kool-Aid!
Review your 1st reply sentence above "But if the move tilse on and he performs it will be because he left the Tahs not because of the coaching and effort that been put into him holistically"
What the living bejesus are you trying to say?
It must be difficult writing with one eye so Blue.
I'll say it again 6 years AND 3 coaches later and NSW still haven't determined whether Tilse can play or not.....it only took FWA 4 years to get an enquiry completed on Thomson!
Instead of as you say, 'another young prop stepping up' how about the Waratahs get rid of Tilse, get off their backsides and either go find a prop who can play now or urgently develop one that can play Super Rugby within 12 months.

I'm saying regardless of what they do you will find a way to blame the tahs. maybe when they sit down and say "we need four props on the books" they talk to there scouts, trainers, coaches etc etc and in the top four consistently for the last six years Tilse remains.

I may look at things different to you but it doesn't mean that the way you look at them is any more rational or thought out than my way. i will remain to type, thought out, educated responses that take into account both sides of a story, as negativity only breeds the negative.

 

[waratahjesus]

i was at Tah HQ today and asked a few questions, i was able to get a copy of there ad for 2013, they hope to break 15000 memberships but i think it does more to prove how out of touch they are than anything written here.

 

[It is what it is]

i was at Tah HQ today and asked a few questions, i was able to get a copy of there ad for 2013, they hope to break 15000 memberships but i think it does more to prove how out of touch they are than anything written here.

Don't you go there every day for work?

 

[It is what it is]

I'm saying regardless of what they do you will find a way to blame the tahs. maybe when they sit down and say "we need four props on the books" they talk to there scouts, trainers, coaches etc etc and in the top four consistently for the last six years Tilse remains.

I may look at things different to you but it doesn't mean that the way you look at them is any more rational or thought out than my way. i will remain to type, thought out, educated responses that take into account both sides of a story, as negativity only breeds the negative.

Keep Tilse for 2013 then if that's your idea of positive, end of discussion.

 

[waratahjesus]

Keep Tilse for 2013 then if that's your idea of positive, end of discussion.

discussion still going.

put these points down so you can better understand what I'm saying.

*your upset Tilse has been on the books for 6 years and isn't played
*you think they should just assess him and
-if he isn't up to it throw him out the door
-if he is play him more.

now, my point.
*your negativity may have made it hard to assess why he might still be there
*maybe he is int he top 4 props in the state currently
*being in the top 4 doesn't make you a starter

im not saying any of this is right or wrong, what I'm saying is that you have only brought up negatives about it, as i said, there are two sides to the story, maybe both should be explored before we decide that the tahs are in the wrong.

discussion free to continue at your discretion.

 

[PaarlBok]

Care to expand on that remark?

Stormers beat the Reds at home much more convinsing to the close win at Newlands.

 

[mjw]

Huh???? He has played about 5 super matches in three years...

Yeah, fine, but he also went to the world cup and played trinations amongst other tests.

 

[AlexH]

Stormers beat the Reds at home much more convinsing to the close win at Newlands.

Mate, how about you compare apples with apples if you are going to make bold statements like that? The Reds were out of sorts when the Stormers knocked them over a few weeks ago and have started to return to form since. The Waratahs, on the other hand, produced as good of a performance as they have produced at any point this season, against the Stormers, and, like they have all season, still fell short of the mark. In any case, the Reds have a better chance of winning the title this year than the Waratahs and Stormers combined and I say that with the knowledge that they are yet to secure a finals berth.

 

[It is what it is]

discussion still going.

put these points down so you can better understand what I'm saying.

*your upset Tilse has been on the books for 6 years and isn't played
*you think they should just assess him and
-if he isn't up to it throw him out the door
-if he is play him more.

now, my point.
*your negativity may have made it hard to assess why he might still be there
*maybe he is int he top 4 props in the state currently
*being in the top 4 doesn't make you a starter

im not saying any of this is right or wrong, what I'm saying is that you have only brought up negatives about it, as i said, there are two sides to the story, maybe both should be explored before we decide that the tahs are in the wrong.

discussion free to continue at your discretion.

No, I'll leave you here, as it's no longer fun, and it would be cruel to do you slowly.
I also learnt a long time ago that you can't win an argument with an idiot.

A final thought though.
You refer to your own comments as educated SO please stop;
- Spelling "you're" as "your"
- Spelling "their" as "there"
- writing phrases such as "and effort that been put into him holistically"

 

[waratahjesus]

Mate, how about you compare apples with apples if you are going to make bold statements like that? .

i think that would destroy the thread Alex, there is three pages comparing the tahs play to the rebels last two weeks. Its happy hour here, any claim is welcome.

 

[waratahjesus]

No, I'll leave you here, as it's no longer fun, and it would be cruel to do you slowly.
I also learnt a long time ago that you can't win an argument with an idiot.

A final thought though.
You refer to your own comments as educated SO please stop;
- Spelling "you're" as "your"
- Spelling "their" as "there"
- writing phrases such as "and effort that been put into him holistically"

right, so you don't actually want to discuss or debate the actual issue?
i would prefer it if you didn't do me at all, slowly or otherwise but instead addressed the discussion i had put forth, but each to there own.

 

[cyclopath]

Mate, how about you compare apples with apples if you are going to make bold statements like that? The Reds were out of sorts when the Stormers knocked them over a few weeks ago and have started to return to form since. The Waratahs, on the other hand, produced as good of a performance as they have produced at any point this season, against the Stormers, and, like they have all season, still fell short of the mark. In any case, the Reds have a better chance of winning the title this year than the Waratahs and Stormers combined and I say that with the knowledge that they are yet to secure a finals berth.

If you're going to play that game, play it fair. The Tahs beat the Sharks playing an enterprising game, maybe their only enterprising game of the year, but nonetheless, there's an apple for your apple, rather than just switching the fruit around to suit! A few decent judges would not say the Tahs played so well this last weekend, so maybe the fruits were nicely peared!
Then go on and rubbish the Stormers (1 loss) while making your own bold statement. At least Paarl was comparing games against 1 team! I commend your superb use of hyperbo-irony.
Anyway, I suspect he was just trying to get a rise out of a couple of Reds fans, and achieved his aim.
As you were.

 

[cyclopath]

No, I'll leave you here, as it's no longer fun, and it would be cruel to do you slowly.
I also learnt a long time ago that you can't win an argument with an idiot.

A final thought though.
You refer to your own comments as educated SO please stop;
- Spelling "you're" as "your"
- Spelling "their" as "there"
- writing phrases such as "and effort that been put into him holistically"

Try not to personalise it either.
Peruse the rules, don't play the man.

 

[AlexH]

If you're going to play that game, play it fair. The Tahs beat the Sharks playing an enterprising game, maybe their only enterprising game of the year, but nonetheless, there's an apple for your apple, rather than just switching the fruit around to suit! A few decent judges would not say the Tahs played so well this last weekend, so maybe the fruits were nicely peared!
Then go on and rubbish the Stormers (1 loss) while making your own bold statement. At least Paarl was comparing games against 1 team! I commend your superb use of hyperbo-irony.
Anyway, I suspect he was just trying to get a rise out of a couple of Reds fans, and achieved his aim.
As you were.

The Waratahs have been rubbish all season save two games so I suppose I was basing my comments on the overarching trend, which their performance against the Stormers aligned with, as opposed to the two the two anomaly performances. Please, do not mistake "as good of a performance as they have produced this season" as praise for their average showing against the Stormers.

Also, my last statements is not as bold as it is bleedingly obvious. The Stormers will not win the tournament this year. You heard it here first.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

discussion still going.

put these points down so you can better understand what I'm saying.

*your upset Tilse has been on the books for 6 years and isn't played
*you think they should just assess him and
-if he isn't up to it throw him out the door
-if he is play him more.

now, my point.
*your negativity may have made it hard to assess why he might still be there
*maybe he is int he top 4 props in the state currently
*being in the top 4 doesn't make you a starter

im not saying any of this is right or wrong, what I'm saying is that you have only brought up negatives about it, as i said, there are two sides to the story, maybe both should be explored before we decide that the tahs are in the wrong.

discussion free to continue at your discretion.

WJ, Tilse has not featured on my radar so I know nothing about him but isn't there another point, or maybe its just another way of putting your point: If there is someone better to whom the Tahs have access then letting Tilse go might be an option and if Tilse has somewhere else to go where he will get more game time he could/should go there.
The fact he's still here suggests that neither is an option.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

If you're going to play that game, play it fair. The Tahs beat the Sharks playing an enterprising game, maybe their only enterprising game of the year, but nonetheless, there's an apple for your apple, rather than just switching the fruit around to suit! A few decent judges would not say the Tahs played so well this last weekend, so maybe the fruits were nicely peared!
Then go on and rubbish the Stormers (1 loss) while making your own bold statement. At least Paarl was comparing games against 1 team! I commend your superb use of hyperbo-irony.
Anyway, I suspect he was just trying to get a rise out of a couple of Reds fans, and achieved his aim.
As you were.

No doubt Im not a decent judge but the tahs did nothing to inspire me - same old same old....except for that Barnes "check side punt": fantastic. But what does it say when the most memorable event in the game was an innovation from AFL - a game based on kicking.....