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Mark Ella (57)
Can't remember Lee's post off the the top of my head. Lee your assistance please.
What do you think Lindommer, of my theory of misplaced selection?
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Can't remember Lee's post off the the top of my head. Lee your assistance please.
What do you think Lindommer, of my theory of misplaced selection?
I reckon Parks "placed his selection" in rugby as about as good as it could've ever got*. And I say "well done, Dan".
*Apart from turning out for Northern Suburbs, that is.
tigerland12
John Thornett (49)
No way would Tom Carter start ahead of Barnes at 12 anyway.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
The article suggests there going to play him at 10, no one from the Tahs has though.
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
Chose a really great time to take an eight week European holiday, couldn't have dealt with the distraught angst at home. Waratahs gone bad, Wally's lose to Scotland. Some days it has been great to have no internet access!
Thinking back to my article at the end of last year I wanted five things from the Tahs this year in the way they play.
The first thing I wanted was that the concept of play was to be as a squad rather than a team of 15. That this happened has more been a case of injuries than design. Jono Jenkins has got time and not been disgraced, as has Foley who has been close to our best back. It has, however, distressed me greatly that Greg Peterson has not had a minute on the park this year. At the other franchises, young locks who were behind him in Shute are now fully fledged first team players. Unless he had a hidden injury, this is incomprehensible. Its not like our locks have been superstars though Kane Douglas has been good. A half tick maybe though mainly due to necessity.
I wanted Mitchell at 15 but his injury has put paid to that. Foley has proved to be an excellent replacement. So, maybe a tick there.
I wanted a game modelled on the "three Ellas". What I got was the exact opposite, showcasing backline skills of the most diabolical kind. Injuries have been bad, but if we had been playing a better style of backline play then the replacements would have looked better at the very least. I cannot accept that the Tahs backs have no intrinsic skills. On what I have seen this season, I wouldn't let Gaffney and Bowen coach an under-10's team. I think that the appalling gameplan that has been installed by the coaches has led to a complete lack of confidence in the players themselves. People under-rate the importance of confidence in playing well - great players can look like fools if they lose that confidence edge. The dropped ball and missed tackles are, in my opinion, testament to the lack of confidence and low morale. So this has been a big, big failure.
I wanted to see the Waratahs forwards control the game, set piece and at the breakdown. I guess you could give this half or quarter tick but against the best teams we have been found wanting. The scrum has been great, the lineout OK to scrappy and the ruck work average. The offensive work (pick and drive) has been average to ponderous.
Lastly I wanted the Tahs to play the game with urgency. The play this year has been diabolical in this respect. No urgency to clear the ruck, no urgency for realignment, endless ineffectual pick and drives, walking to the next phase. Clearly there is a lack of committment to play this way, they want to play slowly and methodically. But underneath this I think there is an underlying lack of fitness to be able to play this way. We have not one but TWO S & C coaches, one who does something called "athletic development". Its almost parody, given the lack of fitness in the squad.
Add in the totally unexpected loss of our defensive record and you get the disaster that has been the season. So there needs to be a thorough cleanout. Cheika in as head coach. Foley to forwards coach, where he excells, new backs coach, new S & C coach, new defensive coach. Sharon's the only one who should be given tenancy.
Necessary but very unlikely, I think.
Thinking back to my article at the end of last year I wanted five things from the Tahs this year in the way they play.
The first thing I wanted was that the concept of play was to be as a squad rather than a team of 15. That this happened has more been a case of injuries than design. Jono Jenkins has got time and not been disgraced, as has Foley who has been close to our best back. It has, however, distressed me greatly that Greg Peterson has not had a minute on the park this year. At the other franchises, young locks who were behind him in Shute are now fully fledged first team players. Unless he had a hidden injury, this is incomprehensible. Its not like our locks have been superstars though Kane Douglas has been good. A half tick maybe though mainly due to necessity.
I wanted Mitchell at 15 but his injury has put paid to that. Foley has proved to be an excellent replacement. So, maybe a tick there.
I wanted a game modelled on the "three Ellas". What I got was the exact opposite, showcasing backline skills of the most diabolical kind. Injuries have been bad, but if we had been playing a better style of backline play then the replacements would have looked better at the very least. I cannot accept that the Tahs backs have no intrinsic skills. On what I have seen this season, I wouldn't let Gaffney and Bowen coach an under-10's team. I think that the appalling gameplan that has been installed by the coaches has led to a complete lack of confidence in the players themselves. People under-rate the importance of confidence in playing well - great players can look like fools if they lose that confidence edge. The dropped ball and missed tackles are, in my opinion, testament to the lack of confidence and low morale. So this has been a big, big failure.
I wanted to see the Waratahs forwards control the game, set piece and at the breakdown. I guess you could give this half or quarter tick but against the best teams we have been found wanting. The scrum has been great, the lineout OK to scrappy and the ruck work average. The offensive work (pick and drive) has been average to ponderous.
Lastly I wanted the Tahs to play the game with urgency. The play this year has been diabolical in this respect. No urgency to clear the ruck, no urgency for realignment, endless ineffectual pick and drives, walking to the next phase. Clearly there is a lack of committment to play this way, they want to play slowly and methodically. But underneath this I think there is an underlying lack of fitness to be able to play this way. We have not one but TWO S & C coaches, one who does something called "athletic development". Its almost parody, given the lack of fitness in the squad.
Add in the totally unexpected loss of our defensive record and you get the disaster that has been the season. So there needs to be a thorough cleanout. Cheika in as head coach. Foley to forwards coach, where he excells, new backs coach, new S & C coach, new defensive coach. Sharon's the only one who should be given tenancy.
Necessary but very unlikely, I think.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Chris Alcock had a storming game for the Woodies against the Marlins, although I did not see the whole game.
Any idea why he did not play for the Tahs the weekend before? Tom Alexander is going pretty well, too. Not to mention Gareth Palamo, nobody seems to want him, he has been a standout for several years.
Any idea why he did not play for the Tahs the weekend before? Tom Alexander is going pretty well, too. Not to mention Gareth Palamo, nobody seems to want him, he has been a standout for several years.
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Why not also propose Hola when he's back from injury and how about adding some more white to the Waratah's outfit too?
How quickly could you also get 'The Bus' fit to replace Carter?
Hickey had his go, and while a nice guy, no cigar.
DPK
Peter Sullivan (51)
Tom Alexander was at the Brumbies for a little while, wasn't he? Agree that he and Palamo have potential.
Sione Piukala's gone overseas, he could gain more hype with that exposure. Might just be earning a bit of dosh while he can, on the other hand, before bowing out.
Badger
Bill McLean (32)
From The Sun Herald today:
No surprises to hear that some of the Tahs home crowds may have been "adjusted". Take out the couple of thousand SFS members and the numbers are worse. It's going to look pretty sparse out at Homebush for the last home game of the year.
Strange to have the coach present his season review BEFORE the season ends. But I suppose the only thing that could happen is that things could go from bad to worse.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Tahs HQ in the next couple of weeks.
No surprises to hear that some of the Tahs home crowds may have been "adjusted". Take out the couple of thousand SFS members and the numbers are worse. It's going to look pretty sparse out at Homebush for the last home game of the year.
Strange to have the coach present his season review BEFORE the season ends. But I suppose the only thing that could happen is that things could go from bad to worse.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Tahs HQ in the next couple of weeks.
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
I don't think we have any (new) injuries atm?
Hopefully we can put out this side vs the Brumbies
1. Robinson 2. TPN 3. Kepu 4. Douglas 5. Timani 6. Dennis 7. Alcock 8. Palu 9. Pretorius 10. Barnes 11. Mitchell 12. Carter 13. Horne 14. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) 15. Foley 16. Ulugia 17. Tilse 18. Mumm 19. L Timani 20. McKibbin 21. Halangahu 22. Turner
Hopefully we can put out this side vs the Brumbies
1. Robinson 2. TPN 3. Kepu 4. Douglas 5. Timani 6. Dennis 7. Alcock 8. Palu 9. Pretorius 10. Barnes 11. Mitchell 12. Carter 13. Horne 14. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) 15. Foley 16. Ulugia 17. Tilse 18. Mumm 19. L Timani 20. McKibbin 21. Halangahu 22. Turner
Don't speak too soon. We have to make it through the bye round.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
I'd prefer
1. Robinson
2. TPN
3. Kepu
4. S. Timani
5. Douglas
6. Dennis
7. Alcock/Jenkins (is J injured?)
8. Palu
9. McKibbin
10. Foley
11. Turner
12. Barnes
13. Horne
14. Mitchell
15. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
16. Ulugia
17. Tilse
18. Mumm
19. L. Timani
20. Pretorius
21. Carter/Halangahu
22. Kingston
1. Robinson
2. TPN
3. Kepu
4. S. Timani
5. Douglas
6. Dennis
7. Alcock/Jenkins (is J injured?)
8. Palu
9. McKibbin
10. Foley
11. Turner
12. Barnes
13. Horne
14. Mitchell
15. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
16. Ulugia
17. Tilse
18. Mumm
19. L. Timani
20. Pretorius
21. Carter/Halangahu
22. Kingston
Athilnaur
Arch Winning (36)
Nice lineup Qwerty, but is Pretorius over McKibbin the go? Great runner but his passing can be atrocious. If I was his coach I'd have been making him do passing drills 6 hours a day!
Will be watching TC closely to see if we get the TC of old keeping everyone honest midfield. The best thing he can do is say screw you and go out there and play his heart out.
Will be watching TC closely to see if we get the TC of old keeping everyone honest midfield. The best thing he can do is say screw you and go out there and play his heart out.
Barnes isn't going to be moved from test 10 to 12 for the Tahs.
Let him build on his season, he is the best 10 we have by far.
Let Foley do kick return with Turner & Mitchell, the Brumbies kick the leather off the ball, I want to see great kick return and Foley popping up as second ball player.
Let him build on his season, he is the best 10 we have by far.
Let Foley do kick return with Turner & Mitchell, the Brumbies kick the leather off the ball, I want to see great kick return and Foley popping up as second ball player.
mjw
Larry Dwyer (12)
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...alf-tahs-problem/story-fn8tkhjf-1226407012080
I like the theory about Luke Burgess. I certainly miss him.
I like the theory about Luke Burgess. I certainly miss him.
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