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Wallaby Squad Predictions 2010!

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Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Hynes is a fullback these days and did bloody well at it in my opinion. Like AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) in having a really nice counter, but with many fewer aimless kicks.
 
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TOCC

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I think Hynes did well at fullback as well, i dont know if his style at fullback will be suited to test level though, his kicking whilst good at times is still a bit limited, and i dont think he will have the room to move at test level in his kick returns like he did at S14 level.

9. Burgess
10. Barnes
11. Ioane
12. Giteau
13. Horne
14. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
15. O'Connor

21. Cooper
22. Mitchell

This is my wallaby team whilst Genia is out injured, I know its difficult to leave Mitchell out, however i think in the makeup of the team, that they need some big strong wingers to to do the the hard yards when required.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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I don't understand this zeal for Beale at Fullback? Surely Hynes and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) are in front of him.

Speaking of Hynes why is he being written off as a wallaby? He had a great year at fullback and his half game at wing Versus the Highlanders proved he still had it as a winger.
 
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GC

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Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
GC said:
Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.
Bit harsh I reckon GC, DeJong's footwork was crazy good. The guys you mention may well have been as bamboozled as Beale was.
 

topo

Cyril Towers (30)
GC said:
Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.

That try was scored by the time he got to Beale. The bloke who didn't help his chances was Palmer. He left an enormous hole for the initial break. Once he was through that, there was no stopping him. And I did notice Beale pull off another tackle on a rampaging Burger who attempted to run over the top him only to have his legs taken out from under him. Beale's defence at fullback is much than his defence at 5/8.
 

MrMouse

Bob Loudon (25)
topo said:
GC said:
Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.

That try was scored by the time he got to Beale. The bloke who didn't help his chances was Palmer. He left an enormous hole for the initial break. Once he was through that, there was no stopping him. And I did notice Beale pull off another tackle on a rampaging Burger who attempted to run over the top him only to have his legs taken out from under him. Beale's defence at fullback is much than his defence at 5/8.
I thought Douglass deserved equal billing on that giant hole...but agree Beale did well otherwise, his "high" tackle bundling whatshisface into touch was probably a try saver too.

For this test, I reckon that I'd look at

9: Burgess
10: Barnes
11: Mitchell
12: Gits
13: Horne
14: Turner
15: AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

20: Valentine
21: Cooper
22: Hynes

With KB (Kurtley Beale) et al to get a run at a later date.
More importantly, what to do in the forwards...

1. Alexander
2. TPN
3. Baxter
4. Mumm
5. Sharpe
6. Hodgson
7. Pocock
8. Elsom (c)

16. SFinger
17. Haha Daley if he's fit, otherwise...Tilse? Ma'afu I don't rate much tbh
18. Douglas
19. Mowen/Waugh
 
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TOCC

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MrMouse said:
topo said:
GC said:
Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.

That try was scored by the time he got to Beale. The bloke who didn't help his chances was Palmer. He left an enormous hole for the initial break. Once he was through that, there was no stopping him. And I did notice Beale pull off another tackle on a rampaging Burger who attempted to run over the top him only to have his legs taken out from under him. Beale's defence at fullback is much than his defence at 5/8.
I thought Douglass deserved equal billing on that giant hole...but agree Beale did well otherwise, his "high" tackle bundling whatshisface into touch was probably a try saver too.

For this test, I reckon that I'd look at

9: Burgess
10: Barnes
11: Mitchell
12: Gits
13: Horne
14: Turner
15: AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

20: Valentine
21: Cooper
22: Hynes

With KB (Kurtley Beale) et al to get a run at a later date.
More importantly, what to do in the forwards...

1. Alexander
2. TPN
3. Baxter
4. Mumm
5. Sharpe
6. Hodgson
7. Pocock
8. Elsom (c)

16. SFinger
17. Haha Daley if he's fit, otherwise...Tilse? Ma'afu I don't rate much tbh
18. Douglas
19. Mowen/Waugh

not one Reds player in the starting lineup would seem a little unfair considering they did finish 2nd out of the Australian teams
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
MrMouse said:
topo said:
GC said:
Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.

That try was scored by the time he got to Beale. The bloke who didn't help his chances was Palmer. He left an enormous hole for the initial break. Once he was through that, there was no stopping him. And I did notice Beale pull off another tackle on a rampaging Burger who attempted to run over the top him only to have his legs taken out from under him. Beale's defence at fullback is much than his defence at 5/8.
I thought Douglass deserved equal billing on that giant hole...but agree Beale did well otherwise, his "high" tackle bundling whatshisface into touch was probably a try saver too.

For this test, I reckon that I'd look at

9: Burgess
10: Barnes
11: Mitchell
12: Gits
13: Horne
14: Turner
15: AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

20: Valentine
21: Cooper
22: Hynes

With KB (Kurtley Beale) et al to get a run at a later date.
More importantly, what to do in the forwards...

1. Alexander
2. TPN
3. Baxter
4. Mumm
5. Sharpe
6. Hodgson
7. Pocock
8. Elsom (c)

16. SFinger
17. Haha Daley if he's fit, otherwise...Tilse? Ma'afu I don't rate much tbh
18. Douglas
19. Mowen/Waugh

Thats a team I could go for. Kepu should be back soon (not that it will make a difference) and I rate Fitzpatrick higher then Faingah
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
The teams that are being submitted here are all quality sides. It's going to be a good year.

Although, I think the less AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is put into passing situations the better he is.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
I've got 3 QLDers in my XV: Cooper, Ioane, Hynes.

I can't imagine why anyone would pick Barnes ahead of Cooper.

MrMouse - what's the problem with Ma'afu? I'm no expert.
 

MrMouse

Bob Loudon (25)
TOCC said:
not one Reds player in the starting lineup would seem a little unfair considering they did finish 2nd out of the Australian teams
Wow, I hadn't noticed that, fair point. But I would have gone with Genia (+Cooper), Weekes and possibly Horwill all starting if not for injury. Does that make it better?

Scarfman said:
I've got 3 QLDers in my XV: Cooper, Ioane, Hynes.

I can't imagine why anyone would pick Barnes ahead of Cooper.

MrMouse - what's the problem with Ma'afu? I'm no expert.
Re Barnes, to test the 'combination theory' that many learned and more astute judges than I believe should work.
Re Ma'afu I'm not happy with his scrum work, and also have concerns that his workrate would be found out at international level, ala Palmer this morning. Knew him briefly some years ago when he was a happy-go-lucky l'il trooper in colts, nice guy, as is his brother, but I say he's not ready, and everyone knows Dingo Deans listens to me ::)
 

aussie1st

Alfred Walker (16)
I liked what I saw of Beale at fullback. He gives us that x-factor from the back and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) gets to play in his preferred centre spot. JOC (James O'Connor) is more suited to 5/8 or inside centre for mine.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
TOCC said:
MrMouse said:
topo said:
GC said:
Beale didn't help his chances at 15 with that 'attempt' at tackle which let in the Stormers try in last night. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, JOC (James O'Connor) all ahead of him, I reckon.

That try was scored by the time he got to Beale. The bloke who didn't help his chances was Palmer. He left an enormous hole for the initial break. Once he was through that, there was no stopping him. And I did notice Beale pull off another tackle on a rampaging Burger who attempted to run over the top him only to have his legs taken out from under him. Beale's defence at fullback is much than his defence at 5/8.
I thought Douglass deserved equal billing on that giant hole...but agree Beale did well otherwise, his "high" tackle bundling whatshisface into touch was probably a try saver too.

For this test, I reckon that I'd look at

9: Burgess
10: Barnes
11: Mitchell
12: Gits
13: Horne
14: Turner
15: AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

20: Valentine
21: Cooper
22: Hynes

With KB (Kurtley Beale) et al to get a run at a later date.
More importantly, what to do in the forwards...

1. Alexander
2. TPN
3. Baxter
4. Mumm
5. Sharpe
6. Hodgson
7. Pocock
8. Elsom (c)

16. SFinger
17. Haha Daley if he's fit, otherwise...Tilse? Ma'afu I don't rate much tbh
18. Douglas
19. Mowen/Waugh

not one Reds player in the starting lineup would seem a little unfair considering they did finish 2nd out of the Australian teams

Genia, Horwill, Higgenbottom & Weekes are wounded, all would be starters. (Davies could have been a smokey as well)
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Re Barnes, to test the 'combination theory' that many learned and more astute judges than I believe should work.
Re Ma'afu I'm not happy with his scrum work, and also have concerns that his workrate would be found out at international level, ala Palmer this morning. Knew him briefly some years ago when he was a happy-go-lucky l'il trooper in colts, nice guy, as is his brother, but I say he's not ready, and everyone knows Dingo Deans listens to me

The Barnes and Burgess combination doesn't exactly have the Tahs backline firing, why do you think it will work for the Wallabies?

I think having Genia out is all the more reason to have Cooper at 10. He should be tried outside a different halfback to see how it affects his performance, if he is still head and shoulders above Giteau or Barnes, then it will prove he is the best option for 10 for the Wallabies (in attack at least). And if, later in the season Cooper and Genia are the 9/10 combo for the wallabies, and Genia gets injured in a big game, then Cooper has to have had some practice, and confidence with the other 9.

Personally, as much as he annoys the crap out of me I'd be inclined to pick Valentine ahead of Burgess, who would be on the bench. I would also give plenty of time to the 10 that is on the bench to get a direct comparison with the starting 10.

Backline for the first test of:

9 Valentine
10 Cooper
11 Mitchell
12 Giteau
13 AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
14 Ioane
15 Hynes

Burgess, Barnes, Horne
 
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