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Wallaby Squad Predictions 2010!

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Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
How does a thread on Wallaby prospects get turned into a "debate" about a coach for the Bumbles?
 
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Spook

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Biffo said:
How does a thread on Wallaby prospects get turned into a "debate" about a coach for the Bumbles?

Simple, Noddy asked a question.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Spook said:
Biffo said:
How does a thread on Wallaby prospects get turned into a "debate" about a coach for the Bumbles?

Simple, Noddy asked a question.

Thanks. In this context, Noddy is a referee (moderator) and therefore blamable? :)
 
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Biffo said:
Spook said:
Biffo said:
How does a thread on Wallaby prospects get turned into a "debate" about a coach for the Bumbles?

Simple, Noddy asked a question.

Thanks. In this context, Noddy is a referee (moderator) and therefore blamable? :)

:lmao: I'll send you a cheque. $5000?
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Before Lee Grant tells us to, let's talk forwards.

It's unfortunate that Horwill is injured, but Mumm and Sharpe are the likely starting lock pair. Which is fine and everything, no complaints or criticisms from me. A few of the "bolters" of this wallaby squad will come from the lock backups I suspect. I'm interested to know what some of you think about Simmons, his potential and if you foresee a more permanent place for him within future Wallaby sides. Is he current form just a coincidence with a resurgent Reds team and likely to fade in a poor side?

Also, is it safe to say that Chisholm is goooneeeee? He is usually very safe and has an impact in the Super 14, but this season I haven't seen much, having been relegated to the bench once or twice I think.
 
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Reddy! said:
Before Lee Grant tells us to, let's talk forwards.

It's unfortunate that Horwill is injured, but Mumm and Sharpe are the likely starting lock pair. Which is fine and everything, no complaints or criticisms from me. A few of the "bolters" of this wallaby squad will come from the lock backups I suspect. I'm interested to know what some of you think about Simmons, his potential and if you foresee a more permanent place for him within future Wallaby sides. Is he current form just a coincidence with a resurgent Reds team and likely to fade in a poor side?

Also, is it safe to say that Chisholm is goooneeeee? He is usually very safe and has an impact in the Super 14, but this season I haven't seen much, having been relegated to the bench once or twice I think.

Been impressed with Simmons. I haven't been so much with Douglas. Lacks grunt. Chisolm has been below average but I think he's still go more to offer than Douglas at this stage. Mind you, I wouldn't put Chisolm in the 22.
 

Newb

Trevor Allan (34)
i think simmons could be a good fit for the wobs, despite his youth. he seems to know that his role in the reds is to make the tackles, secure the rucks, push in the scrums, and win a few lineouts. and that's all. which also makes him valuable to the wobs because that's all their locks should really be doing, with all the other "star power" in the team. let fat cat and tpn truck it up and elsom connect with the backs.

sharpe is at his best when he plays this way rather than :sharpe:

but it seems his brain switches off to the idea at times.
 

Godfrey

Phil Hardcastle (33)
I think that is one of the best things in the Reds at the moment, the forwards truly are working as a unit. They all seem to be in the right place and get in their pods pretty well when driving the ball up. Almost no seagulling.
 

wobbly

Fred Wood (13)
Well put Godfrey. Again kudos to Link.

Great to see an Aussie tight five playing tight. The Reds cleaning out at the breakdown has been the most kiwi-like I've seen from an Oz team ever. Fainga'a is a stand-out in this regard.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I expect that if the Reds make the finals, they will be tested, and found a bit wanting at the breakdown. Teams have not been counter rucking against them in the fear of commiting too many numbers to the breakdown and thus opening holes for Cooper, Genia and Ioane to exploit. Genia's running game not only helps Cooper, but also his forwards immensely.

The Bulls should have been able to dominate the ruck against the Reds, but lacked the commitment and maybe fitness to do so. It will be different in the finals, and the Reds (if they make it) will have to be more aggressive, and commit more to the breakdown to be successful.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Scotty said:
I expect that if the Reds make the finals, they will be tested, and found a bit wanting at the breakdown. Teams have not been counter rucking against them in the fear of commiting too many numbers to the breakdown and thus opening holes for Cooper, Genia and Ioane to exploit. Genia's running game not only helps Cooper, but also his forwards immensely.

The Bulls should have been able to dominate the ruck against the Reds, but lacked the commitment and maybe fitness to do so. It will be different in the finals, and the Reds (if they make it) will have to be more aggressive, and commit more to the breakdown to be successful.

Yeah, Bakkies is back
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Yeh no doubt if the Reds want to progress in the finals (if the make it) they need to get a home semi. This goes for most teams, and is what I love about the Super 14: home grounds are a big advantage, and each is unique.
 
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Front Row

Benn Robinson, Ben Alexander and Tatafu Polata-Nau should certainly be the shoe ins, for the front row gig. Laurie Weeks and Al Baxter are both fighting for the right to be the reserve prop, and Stephen Moore, and Saia Fainga'a are both in contention for that bench spot. Wallabies front row is key, with Al Baxter's ref record, I think the safe option would be Weeks for that bench spot

1. Robinson
2. Tatafu Polata-Nau
3. Alexander

Second Row

I haven't paid much attention to 2nd rowers this year, but Fucken Van Humphries takes the cake for this one. He has been fantastic for the Reds, don't let age worry you, this guy should be one of the Wallaby 2nd Rowers. While Sharpe should be the other. Mumm is certainly up there, hopefully he's stopped with the stupid penalties. The Wallabies line out last year was shit, those jumpers are certainly the way to go for Australia's line out to progress (or just make a play for Vickerman)

4. Humphries
5. Sharpe

Loose Forwards

Those guys would make a fantastic back row. Both Pocock and Hodgson have both adapted to the new interpretations fantastically. Rocky Elsom's average season seems to come to an end. Rocky's time is just around the corner to adapt to these interpretations. As for Higginbotham, shoot me dead Reds fans, but I don't think he deserves to be in the 22.

6. Elsom
7.Pocock
8. Hodgson

Halfback

I think Sanchez 'William' Genia played better than Valentine last night, Valentine had a good pack going on, Genia didn't and yet he still performed. Of course, Genia is the hands down Wallaby Number 9 after being the Super 14's star player this year.

9. Genia

Inside Backs

The problem for #10 comes down to what Robbie Deans values more, the asset of a good performing player (Quade Cooper) who has been a star for the Reds this year, but can't defend very well. Or Matt Giteau who hasn't been performing for the better part of a year. We also can't forget Matthew Toomoua from the Brumbies, who certainly looks to be the goods right now, injury is certainly clouding his performance.

Anthony Fainga'a has been the performing #12 of the Aussie Super teams this tournament, for him not to be considered would be criminal. His defense, and his attack is sublime. Berrick Barnes, is also in contention for this gig, but once again, he hasn't suited the play which the Wallabies need to be using to actually be a chance, in next year's RWC.

10. Cooper
12. Fainga'a

Outside Backs

This is very tricky, as there is Drew Mitchell who seems to be on a try scoring spree. Stirling Mortlock former Wallabies captain. There is Peter Hynes, who safely can perform in any of the Outside back positions. Digby Ioane who is such a strong runner with the ball. Adam Ashley Cooper, who has performed exceptionally at Wallaby level. James O'Connor who has showed maturity (playing!) way above his years. Lachlan Turner who has played for the Wallabies, and has scored a few good tries. Kurtley Beale whose finally been shown the right position. Will Chambers who had a slow start to his conversion to rugby, but is finally showing himself to be a asset. Rod Davies who has exceptional pace.

However, a lot of those players are up and coming players who are not quite ready for the Wallabies just yet, and could do with some Australian Barbarians time just yet. Stirling Mortlock the Wallabies #13 was out injured for last years spring tour, his form this year is certainly pointing to the signs of "Not Good Enough." While players like Will Chambers, and Rod Davies, Lachlan Turner who are without doubt the next generation of Wallabies- realistically they are not ready for Wallabies Rugby just yet.

Drew Mitchell has hit some try scoring form this year but his inconsistent game can be a weakness. Peter Hynes with space is incredibly dangerous, and has shaped up to be the Form Fullback of Australian Rugby, this being said Andy Friend has been throwing AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) all over the place, using his versatility. Digby Ioane has been such a strong ball runner this year, and would be perfect for a wing spot. James O'Connor's position on the bench is harsh for him as his performance has been exceptional, but once again, this guy can cover every position in the back line. Fantastic thing about the backline, is players can play different positions, and still excel.

11. Mitchell
13. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
14. Ioane
15. Hynes

This back line, can always be switched around, with Ioane a perfectly competent 13, and Hynes an exceptional wing, while AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) can cover every position in the outside backs. Mitchell as well has played tests for the Wallabies at 15.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
chief said:
The Wallabies line out last year was shit, those jumpers are certainly the way to go for Australia's line out to progress (or just make a play for Vickerman)

Vickerman made an appearance for his Northampton club recently. He came on as a sub, was crocked, went off and hasn't been seen since.

Forget Vickerman. His usefulness to the Wallabies expired in the south of France in 2007.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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The Frontrow:Al baxter or the Tahs which ever you prefer to blame drop more scrums than every other franchise in Super Rugby his time is over.

The Second Row: I'm thinking young Rob Simmons deserved a mention. But there is no doubt that the 2 old men of Australian Rugby are the form second rowers.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Sully said:
The Second Row: I'm thinking young Rob Simmons deserved a mention. But there is no doubt that the 2 old men of Australian Rugby are the form second rowers.

I'd like to see Simmons and Douglas developed together. Each should get a start for the Baa Baas against England and some time off the bench in the two pom tests. Petrhaps a little time late in the 3N and then the spring tour. I'd hope that both will be serious test standard players next year.
 
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