Wallaby Squad Predictions 2010!

[DPK]

if burgess played for qld he would be amoungst the greatest players on earth, honestly, this year, ive never seen more ordinary performances trumpeted on about than those of half the qld players, there playing well as a team sure but there is only three or four people carrying them, the rest are average players that tom carter would show up.

Burgo is world class, so is genia, genia being behind a dominate aussie pack has helped him in bucketloads during international season last year, when he has a full tri nations under his belt then you can start calling him the saviour if we actually win something (and please no one say, brisbane this or that, it was one match against a sub standard team that didnt want to be there)

its not purely just QLD fans, you only have to look at the Super14 team of the weeks published by all the other sites around the place, Genia has rated in 'team of the week' numerous times yet i dont belive i have seen Burgess's name published yet..

Ever think that maybe its you NSW fans that overly glorify your own players rather then the queenslanders.

Or just bag the shit out of both of them...

 

[HG]

if burgess played for qld he would be amoungst the greatest players on earth, honestly, this year, ive never seen more ordinary performances trumpeted on about than those of half the qld players, there playing well as a team sure but there is only three or four people carrying them, the rest are average players that tom carter would show up.

Burgo is world class, so is genia, genia being behind a dominate aussie pack has helped him in bucketloads during international season last year, when he has a full tri nations under his belt then you can start calling him the saviour if we actually win something (and please no one say, brisbane this or that, it was one match against a sub standard team that didnt want to be there)

Show me one ordinary performance trumpeted on about by any one for the Reds.

 

[waratahjesus]

pick a round.
its fact in 2010 that if someone plays well for the reds they instantly are in better form and a better player than any player in the same position at any australian franchise.

im not just saying it from a tahs point of view, a qld win over an opponant is worth double that by any other team due to there last ten years of being crap. there not being judged on how there going but how much better they are when compared to themselves.

for the second time this year, they have lost a game and been trumpeted as winners, its just crap.

 

[Reddy!]

The Reds have improved a hell of alot this year. To do so has meant that a decent number of players have had to play out of their skin for consecutive weeks for the first time in their career. I don't think anyone is saying the Reds are playing better than the Tahs, but certain player performances stand out alot more than the Tahs.

 

[HG]

Your right the team that was suppose to fighting for the wooded spoon is in 5th.
Who would have thought that.
Diggers, Cooper, Genia, have been great. Where as the other Aust players in those positions had been preforming poorly.
We have seen flashes of brilliance from many other players in the side.
But I haven't seen many calling for Finger (Both to be included into the Wallabies starting side yet.)
A lot of the hype has to do with the selection debacle by the Tahs coach early on in the season.
They are now starting to play well with the inclusion of Beale, and Hangers etc. we may see a more balanced view.

 

[TOCC]

pick a round.
its fact in 2010 that if someone plays well for the reds they instantly are in better form and a better player than any player in the same position at any australian franchise.

im not just saying it from a tahs point of view, a qld win over an opponant is worth double that by any other team due to there last ten years of being crap. there not being judged on how there going but how much better they are when compared to themselves.

for the second time this year, they have lost a game and been trumpeted as winners, its just crap.

whinge whinge whinge... at the end of the day, i dont think a Reds player has been selected in a team of the week where he hasnt deserved it. Maybe the reason is because there are some individuals standing out more in the Reds, as opposed to other teams where it is more a team performance, either way why dont you go through and highlight excatly the ones that you dont agree with and we can analyse it.

 

[Scotty]

Forwards - Tahs > Reds

Backs - Reds > Tahs

Result = Tahs above Reds on table.

WJ - Please don't tell us you wouldn't like to have the Reds backline at the Tahs which would mean Tahs >> Everyone else.

 

[waratahjesus]

i wouldnt mind having genia and quade in there current form, quade especially though is either great or very ordinary so as long as he could give his word he would always play well i would take him.

Iaone v Horne at 13 is a tough one and i would take a fit horne, i wouldnt trade the tahs back three for anyone at the reds currently.

Front row i would take the tahs, second row, tahs, back row tahs. and i dont actually think thats being patriotic.

the general view on this board from reds fans is if they win a agame no matter the opposition its because there good and if they lose its becuase they cost themselves not that they got beat by a better team. whilst a reds fan views the tahs as only winning when the opposition is crap or doesnt turn up.

the fact that some think Kingi rates above burgo is a key indicator of how incredibly red eyed fans around here are, how many minutes of super rugby in total has he played?

 

[DPK]

the fact that some think Kingi rates above burgo is a key indicator of how incredibly red eyed fans around here are, how many minutes of super rugby in total has he played?

Agreed, this is quite tiresome.

 

[RugbyReg]

I love this broad paint brushing youre doing. How many people think Kingi is better than Burgess? I know I sure don't.

And WJ you're having a go at supporters of a particularly team promoting their players above another team? Blimey, that's been going on for years. And let me tell you, we QLDers aren't the only ones doing it. I mean you yourself have just said you'd prefer Turner over Hynes and Ioane? Personally I think that is pretty damn silly, but mate you're a waratah fan so of course you are more inclined to promote your lads above others.

But I'm calling bullshit on many of your statements of late. From lunch with Chris Hickey to Reds fans trumpeting ordinary performances of our players.

 

[waratahjesus]

I love this broad paint brushing youre doing. How many people think Kingi is better than Burgess? I know I sure don't.

And WJ you're having a go at supporters of a particularly team promoting their players above another team? Blimey, that's been going on for years. And let me tell you, we QLDers aren't the only ones doing it. I mean you yourself have just said you'd prefer Turner over Hynes and Ioane? Personally I think that is pretty damn silly, but mate you're a waratah fan so of course you are more inclined to promote your lads above others.

But I'm calling bullshit on many of your statements of late. From lunch with Chris Hickey to Reds fans trumpeting ordinary performances of our players.

sorry to hit you with my broad brush noddy, perhaps you can put your paint roller back in its tray and call the kettle dark grey?

i was answering the question put to me that if i could have the reds backline and tahs forwards i would jump at it, iaone was the only one i would consider, but being a fan i wouldnt give up the current waratahs backline for anyone other than genia and quade as i mentioned above.

 

[Reddy!]

I don't mean to be rude, and I respect that you are a Waratahs fan, but DIGBY IOANE IS THE GREATEST RUGBY PLAYER OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!!!!!

 

[Biffo]

I don't mean to be rude, and I respect that you are a Waratahs fan, but DIGBY IOANE IS THE GREATEST RUGBY PLAYER OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!!!!!

Written by a REAL Qlander :lmao:

Now, before anyone sees a high horse and jumps as high as, that is a joke. Taking the piss out of those whose view of Qland v the World's Greatest-ever State is too extreme

 

[chief]

Probable backline:

9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. Mitchell
12. Giteau
13. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
14. Ioane
15. Hynes

I think Deans will go for that, Hynes' attacking flair will be more exposed at 15 then it will on the wing, however Hynes' work rate off the ball could be missed. Hynes at fullback would be especially dangerous, as you wouldn't know where he would go.

Form backline

9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. Mitchell
12. Fainga
13. Too hard to call
14. Too hard to call
15. JOC (James O'Connor)/Hynes

 

[Reddy!]

I don't mean to be rude, and I respect that you are a Waratahs fan, but DIGBY IOANE IS THE GREATEST RUGBY PLAYER OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!!!!!

Written by a REAL Qlander :lmao:

Now, before anyone sees a high horse and jumps as high as, that is a joke. Taking the piss out of those whose view of Qland v the World's Greatest-ever State is too extreme

With a name like Waratahjesus, how could anyone take his argument seriously. He is basically saying the Waratahs are god-like, what arrogance.




...So Wallabies - The more leaders on the field the better, especially in the forward pack. Keen to see 2 captains in Mumm and Sharpe as the locks. Pocock, Robinson and TPN/Moore are natural leaders, and of course there is Elsom. Palu to give their leadership some purpose.

Backs - well they will lack a bit with the inevitable absence of Mortlock. However, Genia has stepped up, Giteau or Barnes are Wallaby VCs. Outside backs will be lacking somewhat, but AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Hynes, Mitchell are no strangers to test rugby.

 

[waratahjesus]

i dont think deans will take the l5 off AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), he has delivered, JOC (James O'Connor) is a bench player utility. wingers hynes/drew probably interesting to see if beale actually takes another bench spot seeing as he plays centre/fly/fullback but if will probably go to berrick even though he isnt as versatile. i think turner misses out by being a specialist winger. Iaone deserves to be in the team and should start at l3 but as ive mentioned i would prefer horne and iaone in the team and iaone is a better winger than horne.

Cooper hopefully plays international rugby at the same speed and the little bit less time he will see in the pocket doesnt cause him to lose the composure he has seemed to gain this year. Hopefully Giteaus return to l2 will see him left there.

Forwards pick themselves as they did last year, just leave richard brown out unless there is injuries.

 

[en_force_er]

Forwards pick themselves as they did last year, just leave richard brown out unless there is injuries.

I don't think old Dick is as bad as people say. He is a great Super 14 player and could end up being a decent Wallaby.

He just had a brain snap one week and the refs started scapegoating him afterwards. Al Baxter (a very good S14 prop) goes through the same thing.

Sadly it's a career killer.

 

[Spook]

WJ rates Burgess world class - I've heard it all now :nta:. Genia is a far superior player. There is no comparison. End of story.

 

[Godfrey]

Yeah. I doubt any opposing teams would be worried about facing the dynamism of Bargain-Bin Burgo

 

[DPK]

Yeah. I doubt any opposing teams would be worried about facing the dynamism of Bargain-Bin Burgo

He is Australia's number 2 halfback, formerly number one. He cannot be as bad as this thread is sliding towards. If he was as bad as some of TYS's members believe, he wouldnt be playing for either the Tahs or the Wallabies.