Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Mate they already get a few, Dearns last night was one case, though not really poaching as such.
Wallabies v Scotland, Murrayfield, Sun 30th Oct, 3.30am AEDT
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Not exactly my point - but close enough.
The wallabies have created a rod for their own back with their incessant whinging at teh referees and constant infringing.
It has had its toll on the referees and they are no longer engaging positively with any Australian player - captain or otherwise. This will take years (on our part) to correct.
There is no conscious bias from the referees against us, but the negative view they have towards us leads to inconsistent behaviour that doesn't help the situation. The two breakdowns leading up to the penalty against the wallabies circa 3 minutes game time compared to the breakdown that leads to the penalty against the wallabies circa 60 minutes game time as a comparative example. this referee was absoklutely NOT consistent in his interpretations of teh breakdowns and his engagement with the two teams from the first whistle blow was absosultely was not consistent.
This referee used every single thing at his disposal to not give a red card to a clear red card offense.
The references to the Foley tackle are laughable. Before the end of next year's world cup, an australian lock in posession of the ball will be red carded for lowering themselves into a tackle and making head contact with a defender. I give it a 50% chance that it will happen on this tour.
Exclusive to all of the above is a broader problem and that is the referees need to inject themselves into anything and everything so to raise their own profile. How many matches are now ending with 30+ penalty counts? How many phases before the referee or TMO stops play for some obscure law that has not been called for the last 80 years? Used to be a "7 phases" count metric, but I rarely see 3+ these days. And that suits the main audience for rugby - Europe. The ones who when polled a number of years ago said the most favoured outcome they like to see from a scrum is a penalty. This is not the game I loved for the better part of 30 years. It's currently stop/start/heavily adjudicated hot garbage. And it is not just the players at fault for this. World Rugby is to blame.
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Dave Cowper (27)
The state of Australia's talent identification when someone like Riley is let through... it's disgraceful and unacceptable.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
I mean I'm a miserable prick so I'm not really one to go off but, yeah, to me shit has been getting very dire the last few years on multiple fronts: quality of the game overall, standard of the refereeing, administrative decision making (except maybe the last year or two) and the absolute state of the Wallabies and franchises performances.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Do we have talent identification? pretty sure we sacked everyone to balance the books.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
It was pretty stupid, but I was happy with him today. It has been a long time since he appeared to be keen to impress and show what he can do.
At times he has looked lazy but today he seemed to have a point to prove, almost as if he was given a last chance to impress, he was doing little things, like jumping from a lying down position to try to get an ankle tap and just seemed more involved.
Hopefully this means he is fully fit
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
This is just rubbish. These guys leave because they get paid more; we can't pay everyone what others can. It's that simple.
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Rod McCall (65)
Riley was poached with a good offer when he was only 19, he was in the Reds U20 squad at the the time and was on a sporting scholarship at Bond University as well, Robbie Deans was just able to offer more.
What was the offer?
Drew
Bob Davidson (42)
Probably about the same time as Ben Gunter was lured to the same Japanese club. It’s retention more than recruitment. A scholarship and a stipend aren’t as valuable as a professional contract to kid. It would’ve helped his decision knowing he was behind Kerevi at the Reds also.
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Dan54
David Wilson (68)
And to be fair mate, they done alright in poaching coaches over there too, 4 of the Japanese coaching set up kiwis. Joseph, Brown, Mitchell and Hansen, and plenty in club land too including Wayne Smith, Robbie Deans and Tood Blackadder to start with!
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Ken Catchpole (46)
And just to add more into "how good this referee was"...
He blew his whistle for the final penalty of the match at 77:54. The Scottish kicker started his run in at 79:38 and actually kicked it at 79:40. That's 106 seconds of actual in game time where the ball was not in play but the clock was allowed to run down. There were no warnings to any Scottish player to hurry up their play.
The ball is grounded at 79:48 at the earliest, 22 drop out is called and the wallabies are told to "ok let's go lads" at 80:18. 30 seconds at the most before being warned to play on.
He allowed one team to wind down time and then did everything in his power to make sure that team could get a second go when they fucked up their one chance at victory.
I don't care about one being a kick for goal and the other being a drop out.
He might well be a good referee in general, but in this match he was inconsistent and bad.
He blew his whistle for the final penalty of the match at 77:54. The Scottish kicker started his run in at 79:38 and actually kicked it at 79:40. That's 106 seconds of actual in game time where the ball was not in play but the clock was allowed to run down. There were no warnings to any Scottish player to hurry up their play.
The ball is grounded at 79:48 at the earliest, 22 drop out is called and the wallabies are told to "ok let's go lads" at 80:18. 30 seconds at the most before being warned to play on.
He allowed one team to wind down time and then did everything in his power to make sure that team could get a second go when they fucked up their one chance at victory.
I don't care about one being a kick for goal and the other being a drop out.
He might well be a good referee in general, but in this match he was inconsistent and bad.
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Gunter wasn’t offered anything by reds. Easy decision
Drew
Bob Davidson (42)
It was an easy decision for Riley too. Deans saw something in both players, offered them opportunities that weren’t present here and they’re both capped internationals.
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Otherwise ordinary misses by recruitment staff.
according to Adam. Ripley was offered a better offer. Presuming he was offered something by the reds.
Otherwise ordinary misses by recruitment staff.
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Bob Davidson (42)
Yeah, it’s just disappointing. As others have stated, Japanese clubs have the money, more teams, therefore more opportunities. So it’s hard to compete with that. But it sucks we have to choose between 2 teenagers on what they offer a few years down the road.
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Dave Cowper (27)
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Tucker said his stock falling from this match was centre Hunter Paisami.
“He might not have been in the top three Australian centres this weekend,” Tucker said.
“You had Dylan Riley playing for Japan and he had a blinder and [Frankston born] Sione Tuipulotu, who had a really good game for Scotland here.
“Without wanting to be the dinosaur, when you’re looking at a point of difference player – probably like a Tim Horan or someone like that – that backline is missing some magic whether it’s from Foley or whether it’s from an inside centre.”
He pointed to the lead up to the second Scotland try where the backline was in a “complete mess” before losing the ball.
“That’s not a precision Australian side. The Australia that used to go to the northern hemisphere would have this confidence they’d be the silky best backline going into the UK, but that’s not the case.
“Now there’s some clumsiness there that or lack of precision. And they’ve really got to get some of those things sorted out. We haven’t got that magical player in the midfield yet.”
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Peter Johnson (47)
BR: if you don't think the 10 missing that kick from that distance is not luck - I'd like to know your idea of luck?
We were crap at the breakdown in the first half also lucky we didn't end up behind at the 40mins. The guys fought well but the execution and taking of chances was poor. A big improvement needed to come out of this tour 3-5. Love to be proven wrong.
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
Tuipulotu was fkn awful, what game did he watch?
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