Wallabies v Ireland, Sun 20th Nov 7am AEDT

[Shiggins]

Anyone else have an opinion on the aki try ? You can't try to place the ball multiple times ?

 

[Derpus]

Can you outline the fuckery that warrants being fired? Genuinely curious. We've lost a bunch of tight games, won a bunch of tight games.

E.g. this year we've won two games by fewer than ten points (+2 vs England, +8 vs South Africa), and lost 6 by four points or fewer (-4 vs England, -2 vs NZ, -3 vs Ireland, -1 vs France, Scotland, Italy). Flip a coin on five of those games.

His selections don't appear to follow any kind of logic or rationale - why was Skelton coming off the bench? Why pull your playmaker against France and Italy? Why would he start Samu, the loosest of loose forwards, in place of our primary ball runner in tight? Where the fuck is Harry Wilson? This list starts getting pretty long the more you go back.

He chops and changes far too much and has completely mishandled the younger players in and around the squad including Noah, McDermott, Wilson, Donaldson etc. Rotating in 13 new players against Italy? fucking absurd. Diminishes the test and the jersey.

He also has to take responsibility for the discipline. Worst in the world, basically.

I like the guy and he's been a great change of pace from the horror that was Cheika's last couple of years - but he's kind of shit. Not everything that has gone wrong is his fault. The injury plague for example. But he's made enough bad decisions that have negatively impacted the side to warrant being moved on.

But he won't be because we are poor and the RWC is around the corner.

 

[Dctarget]

Why did we not get the penalty for throwing the ball into the offside player? No shit it was intentional but it was as intentional as the Irish one in the first half.

 

[KOB1987]

Why did we not get the penalty for throwing the ball into the offside player? No shit it was intentional but it was as intentional as the Irish one in the first half.

Because we might have won if he awarded it?

 

[gel]

FF (Folau Fainga'a) (Folau Fainga'a)

Thanks.

I'm surprised BR forgot about FF (Folau Fainga'a)

 

[Drew]

I count at least 4 ruptured achillies this year. I know it's been mentioned that we have been "Unlucky " with injuries, but what's going on with the S&C team?

That’s the one piece of “fuckery” that Derpus missed in his post

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

No point in sacking Rennie at this point, it won't help. With our best players back next year and hopefully fit we'll probably get out of our group. I'd like to see an immediate change up and development of the younger blokes with a view to the Lions tour and RWC 2027 - this cycle is done for.

 

[whitefalcon]

We're going to struggle without Valetini and Tupou against Wales. They are our main guys to get over the ad line. Not to mention the missing backs

God it has been a horrible year for us. I still think we have the makings of a great team if we can avoid injuries (or at least the number we have had) and fix discipline.

Get that sorted and we've shown we can take it to (and beat) the best in the world.

I'm just hoping this is part of some Eddie Jones England or 2019 Springboks 5d chess and that we come out next year and have fixed our discipline and know the game plan we want to play (the game plan against France and Ireland).

I am however always the optimist with the wallabies

 

[Brumby Runner]

Full casualty list:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594119126695694336

Can we please add Gordon - ill discipline?

And of course, both Foley and Skelton will be missing too.

 

[Drew]

Can we please add Gordon - ill discipline?

don’t think ill discipline is an injury. Unless you or some of the other posters on here get their hands on him.

 

[gel]

Slipper:
"We had a chance there to win the game. We wanted to make a response after last week, and I thought we did that.

“It’s just been one of those tough years, but we’re sticking tight and we’re staying through the hard times.”


Mark Nawaqanitawase:
“100 per cent, we put pride back in the jersey after the Italy defeat.

“We’re definitely gutted. We got ourselves in the right position there.

It's not the coach, it's the players. Their attitudes are off

Their response was to continue to be poorly disciplined and fucking dumb. Lol at the pride comment.

 

[Purce]

I'm good with Rennie. He has had a horror run with injuries, I think there would be some decisions he would take back in hindsight during his time with the wallabies however I know the players rate him very highly and I'd like to see what he can do with a full squad next year.

A couple of things though... Skelton should have started. 50/60 mins from him could have been the difference between a W and a L in that game. Fucked if I know why Lolesio was on the bench, I am no Hodge fan but he should have been there. No point in having a specialist 10 taking up a spot in 21-23 especially with the horror run of injuries we are having. I like White but he needs to STFU. I used to think it was competitiveness but I think he over steps the boundaries with his incessant back chat and complaints.

I'm done with Poreki. He offers nothing. FF (Folau Fainga'a) at least has some go around the pitch. Poreki's ill discipline cost us a lot more tonight than FF (Folau Fainga'a). We are in desperate need of a hooker and I'm hoping Latu finds his 2019 form in 2023, hopefully he is smart enough to see the opportunity at his feet.

In the backs I thought Marky, Petaia and Kellaway all had very good games. Mark has come on incredibly over the last 2 years. Very happy to see Jordy have the kind of game we all know he is capable of. Ikitau played well out of position as well. There was a fair bit of kicking the ball away when we had number though which annoyed me.

To put the game into context we lost out 3rd string 12 in the 2nd minute, we're down to 13 at one stage, lost Tupou after about 2 mins, had a 13 playing 12, had a 9 playing 11, lost our 8 to injury as well and only just lost a game to the world number 1 at their home with old knobhead as the ref. The boys stood up physically and played with alot of heart. Personally I think they're building. I'm shattered at the loss because I think we actually deserved the win and I feel for the players however sometimes losses like that build the character of a group.

Throw Cooper, kerevi, Koro, perese, Banks, Pone, Rodda, HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes), Bell, Phillip, Leota, etc into selection for that game and we comfortably win.

In saying that if we lose to Wales next week then who bloody knows. We need a strong performance to build on that Ireland game. Anything short of a convincing win isn't a pass for me.

 

[Silverado]

don’t think ill discipline is an injury. Unless you or some of the other posters on here get their hands on him.

If ill discipline was cause for dropping, we'd be dropping around half a dozen

 

[Adam84]

If ill discipline was cause for dropping, we'd be dropping around half a dozen

Only because there isn't a viable alternative for half a dozen other players, there absolutely is in McDermott for Gordon.
Gordon has to go, two stupid penalties in two weeks that have contributed to 3 tries to the opposition.

 

[Viking]

Please, Rugby Australia contact Scott Robertson. At least to take after RWC or Pommies are gonna sign him

I wonder if Wayne Smith, coach of the black ferns, should be considered.

 

[Adam84]

Can we please add Gordon - ill discipline?

And of course, both Foley and Skelton will be missing too.

I'd say the same for Fainga'a and Porecki, but probably wont have a team if we do that.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Geez it just looks like the match officials have an unconscious bias against the wallabies. BOK’s language is indicitive of this.

12 penalties against each Australia and Ireland. Last week was quite a bit lopsided (16 OZ, 9 Italy), but the two tests in the previous weeks were pretty even (11 OZ, France 10 and 15 OZ, 14 Scotland)

 

[RugbyReg]

Slipper:
"We had a chance there to win the game. We wanted to make a response after last week, and I thought we did that.

“It’s just been one of those tough years, but we’re sticking tight and we’re staying through the hard times.”


Mark Nawaqanitawase:
“100 per cent, we put pride back in the jersey after the Italy defeat.

“We’re definitely gutted. We got ourselves in the right position there.

It's not the coach, it's the players. Their attitudes are off

Their response was to continue to be poorly disciplined and fucking dumb. Lol at the pride comment.

Yeah. I’m not loving those comments.

 

[Viking]

Porecki looked totally disoriented and concussed well before he came off. Did anyone see him hit his head and what time? He might have been playing on Zombie mode, which explains his uncharacteristic play.

You say it's uncharacteristic but he's been penalised for neck rolls before. I think he's been penalised a similar amount to Fainga including a yellow card.

 

[qwerty51]

Man that’s really disappointing to hear them say a 3 point loss was righting the ship. That’s a defeatist attitude and it speaks volumes about what their actual expectations are for themselves as a group.