Wallabies v Ireland, Sun 20th Nov 7am AEDT

[stillmissit]

That reminds me. My brother did one of those DNA ancestry test things. 87% Irish apparently. Assuming my brother is in fact related to me by blood (i have my doubts) we can conclude that I too support Ireland.

Derpus I'm 70% pommie and love to see them done over, bigger the better.

 

[Pfitzy]

That reminds me. My brother did one of those DNA ancestry test things. 87% Irish apparently. Assuming my brother is in fact related to me by blood (i have my doubts) we can conclude that I too support Ireland.

My wife did one thinking she had a lot of Italian, French, and English history.

Results said Greek was the highest.

Of course you can't put much stock in the word of a company who just wants your sample to 1) make money and 2) own your genetic code.

 

[Derpus]

My wife did one thinking she had a lot of Italian, French, and English history.

Results said Greek was the highest.

Of course you can't put much stock in the word of a company who just wants your sample to 1) make money and 2) own your genetic code.

Sadly I had no say in the decision. Now how am I supposed to get away with murder?

 

[emuarse]

Are you saying that any player who gives away a needless yellow card should be punished by non- selection the following week, or is it specifically because you don't like Gordon? Generally, you don't punish players for one- off incidents that go against their overall track record.

And there's the problem right there - the cause of lack of discipline in the Wallabies. Rennie obviously agrees with not punishing players.

 

[Merrow]

I wish Rennie would settle on a 1 and 2 HB and stop this messing around.

We know who the best halfback is, it’s the second that’s the mystery.

 

[dru]

We know who the best halfback is, it’s the second that’s the mystery.

That depends just a touch if your metric is pissing off referees or things like passing, running, kicking. For me with the WB discipline right now, if there is a high correlation in that first metric, the rest become redundant.

 

[Mr Pilfer]

Dropping Skelton to the bench just shows how little planning there actually is in their selections.

Ease him in against France - he looks good. Start him against Italy - best Wallaby on park. So the next logical step is to drop him back to the bench in his last game?

Yep this one selection above all others is a joke, no logical justification

 

[Mr Pilfer]

I actually think both Gordon and McDermott have been poor enough to warrant someone else getting a chance. Lonergan perhaps. I'd say Issak Fines-Leleiwasa but I think he's ruled himself out?

Bring in Kerr-Barlow for a crack

 

[Merrow]

That depends just a touch if your metric is pissing off referees or things like passing, running, kicking. For me with the WB discipline right now, if there is a high correlation in that first metric, the rest become redundant.

White was pretty quiet against the French (for him), and for the most part outplayed DuPont. His passing, decision making and kicking are way ahead of any of the others.

 

[LeCheese]

White was pretty quiet against the French (for him), and for the most part outplayed DuPont. His passing, decision making and kicking are way ahead of any of the others.

He played well, but I'm pretty sure he was still warned by the ref to tone it down. He's definitely our #1 pick at halfback, but with the target on his back as a result of previous indiscretions, he (and those in his ear around him) shouldn't even be letting it get to that stage.

 

[Maulalltheway]

With FF (Folau Fainga'a) (Folau Fainga'a)'s throwing issues, and his better scrummaging and general play, I would much prefer him starting.
It's too stressful having a line-out with 5minutes to go without Porecki throwing.

Poreki has missed 4 of his last 24 lineouts. Fainga’a has missed 3 of his last 23 lineouts?

This narrative isn’t backed by the stats

 

[Rob42]

Yep this one selection above all others is a joke, no logical justification

Rennie said Skelton had a calf issue (how many calf issues is that in total for the team?!), but is OK to go - obviously not 100% though.

 

[LeCheese]

Rennie said Skelton had a calf issue (how many calf issues is that in total for the team?!), but is OK to go - obviously not 100% though.

True to form for the Wobs, I'm expecting his achilles to blow shortly after he comes on

 

[stillmissit]

He played well, but I'm pretty sure he was still warned by the ref to tone it down. He's definitely our #1 pick at halfback, but with the target on his back as a result of previous indiscretions, he (and those in his ear around him) shouldn't even be letting it get to that stage.

That's the captain's job, we don't want the Wallaby players (who seem to have more opinions about the ref's or any decisions apart from their own discipline) getting into his ear.
They make the G&G look like an old women's garden party.

 

[Viking]

Poreki has missed 4 of his last 24 lineouts. Fainga’a has missed 3 of his last 23 lineouts?

This narrative isn’t backed by the stats

I think we have been over this already. I'm sure at least 2 of Fainga's missed throws were crucial line-outs in the last 5minutes of games. Despite your stats I'm still more stressed with Fainga throwing.

He has missed crucial line-outs for the Brumbies too whereas I wonder if Porecki's stats at the Tahs are better, I bet they would be.

 

[Maulalltheway]

I think we have been over this already. I'm sure at least 2 of Fainga's missed throws were crucial line-outs in the last 5minutes of games. Despite your stats I'm still more stressed with Fainga throwing.

He has missed crucial line-outs for the Brumbies too whereas I wonder if Porecki's stats at the Tahs are better, I bet they would be.

A missed lineout is a missed lineout. Because it’s with 5 minutes left and we’re chasing the game is irrelevant. A miss in the first 5 creates as much pressure as the end.

that’s like saying a goal keeper who missed a spot kick in the first minute is a better keeper than one who misses it under pressure in the shootout.
You’re allowed to like porecki more. But don’t try to say it’s because his lineout throwing is better.

man let’s be Frank. What you think and what happened are different here things

 

[Viking]

A missed lineout is a missed lineout. Because it’s with 5 minutes left and we’re chasing the game is irrelevant. A miss in the first 5 creates as much pressure as the end.

that’s like saying a goal keeper who missed a spot kick in the first minute is a better keeper than one who misses it under pressure in the shootout.
You’re allowed to like porecki more. But don’t try to say it’s because his lineout throwing is better.

man let’s be Frank. What you think and what happened are different here things

Well I think this is where we disagree. You hear ex-players talk about this all the time. Rugby is about moments, the great players stand up in the 'big moments'. They don't always have the stats to follow.

A missed line-out in the first 5minutes has a lot less bearing on the game as you have 75mins to rectify your error. There is added pressure for missing a line-out with 5minutes to go as it's literally your last chance to win the game.

The same can be said of goal-kicking to win a game after the buzzer.

So a miss in the first 5 does NOT create the same pressure as the end. I strongly disagree with your statement here.

Otherwise, wouldn't the team with the best stats always win? But that's not always case. Unless the stats are limited to the scoreboard.

 

[Viking]

Your goal keeper point is also ironic, given there is literally goalkeepers who specialise in shootouts compared to starting matches.

Pressure matters. Moreso in the sport then most jobs.

 

[Maulalltheway]

Well I think this is where we disagree. You hear ex-players talk about this all the time. Rugby is about moments, the great players stand up in the 'big moments'. They don't always have the stats to follow.

A missed line-out in the first 5minutes has a lot less bearing on the game as you have 75mins to rectify your error. There is added pressure for missing a line-out with 5minutes to go as it's literally your last chance to win the game.

The same can be said of goal-kicking to win a game after the buzzer.

So a miss in the first 5 does NOT create the same pressure as the end. I strongly disagree with your statement here.

Otherwise, wouldn't the team with the best stats always win? But that's not always case. Unless the stats are limited to the scoreboard.

The pressure is the at the end because of the inaccuracies of the start. Because we’re almost always chasing the game.

and let’s be honest. The team that fucks up less, wins far more games.

I’ll go with the bloke who misses less throws and gives less PKs away while also being a more physical player. But hey. That’s a pretty out there idea.

 

[Maulalltheway]

Well I think this is where we disagree. You hear ex-players talk about this all the time. Rugby is about moments, the great players stand up in the 'big moments'. They don't always have the stats to follow.

A missed line-out in the first 5minutes has a lot less bearing on the game as you have 75mins to rectify your error. There is added pressure for missing a line-out with 5minutes to go as it's literally your last chance to win the game.

The same can be said of goal-kicking to win a game after the buzzer.

So a miss in the first 5 does NOT create the same pressure as the end. I strongly disagree with your statement here.

Otherwise, wouldn't the team with the best stats always win? But that's not always case. Unless the stats are limited to the scoreboard.

But I’m certain we’re disagreeing for the same result. Up the Wobs!!!